2nd Cycle, 1st with Deca

[jonathaneshi]

Hey all, looking for some info about my cycle here. Doing a Test E with Deca and kick starting it with D-bols.

weeks 1-10 Testosterone Enanthate 500mgs/week
weeks 1-9 Deca-Durabolin 400mgs/week
Weeks 1-5 Dianabol 50mgs/day

Got nolva and HCG on hand

My stats:
25 years old
5'4 (165cm)
about 150 pounds (14% fat)

I've been training for 6 years and been doing martial arts for a while too. I gain fat VERY fast since i was over 185 pounds about 4 years ago with no muscle mass.

Any tips? Sounds good?
I also have clenbuterol and winstrol if that can help ... or just for another cycle after to lean down

 

[jonathaneshi]

bump?

 

[Greazy-Pickle]

cycles not long enough buddy... your only 5ft4? and you gain weight easily.. 14%bf.. you know your gonna put on some serious size with this cycle right?... you open to suggestions or did you already buy everything?

 

[Ythrashin]

I agree 12-16wks is the way to go...

 

[jonathaneshi]

I already bought everything and started my cycle. I'm on my 2nd week (4th inj made yesterday) but i have more then enough to do a longer cycle. I got test enant, deca, sust, clen, winstrol and my post cycle therapy (pct).

I'm always open to suggestions and 4 some help! so 16 weeks? cutting the deca on the 15th and starting my post cycle therapy (pct) on the 18th week? is that right?

 

[Ythrashin]

That is what I'd do...

 

[jonathaneshi]

cycles not long enough buddy... your only 5ft4? and you gain weight easily.. 14%bf.. you know your gonna put on some serious size with this cycle right?... you open to suggestions or did you already buy everything?

So i should go for 14 weeks??
I'm looking to get a lot of gains here... then leaning it out with some clen and post cycle therapy (pct) Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) will help me lose some fast too. I WANT serious mass and if i need to make this cycle a few weeks longer, then be it!!

Also, when do i start my post cycle therapy (pct)? I got Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) and nolva

 

[jonathaneshi]

So as an update! i went from 64kg to 69kg with the first 4 weeks into this. Stopped the d-bols on the 3rd week and got sick after so i lost 1kg in the past 3-4 days since i can barely eat. Things are going good and my arms are getting really bigger. That was really my biggest challenge since my chest, back and legs had the most mass and nothing in the arms.

I'm gonna continue what i'm doing + focus a bit less on the arms since they're up to proportion with the rest of my body now. More back and legs starting tomorrow to increase that number on the scale.

Any more tips? Any tips for when to start my PCT?

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

Any tips for when to start my PCT?

 

[jonathaneshi]

I heard that if i do a 13 week cycle, i should start with my Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) half way through at 500ui every 3-4 days... is that true?

 

[bigcac13]

you dont use nolva for post cycle therapy (pct) if you were on deca also you may want some liquid prami for prolactin

 

[jonathaneshi]

RESULTS:

After a 12 weeks cycle (not 400mg but 300mg of deca), I was able to gain about 12 pounds on that cycle and decrease my % body fat by about 2% (calculated at the end of the pct). Unfortunately, i've been sick with tonsillitis and lost an extra 5 pounds after that but it was 50/50 fat and muscle.

Gonna make a new post for my next cycle. Test 500 and deca 500 for 16 weeks

 

[MotorIHead]

Ur test should always be a lil higher then ur Deca. If u wanna run 500mg of Deca u need to run 600mg of test, or if u wanna run 500mg of test, run 400mg of Deca.

 

[Ythrashin]

Ur test should always be a lil higher then ur Deca. If u wanna run 500mg of Deca u need to run 600mg of test, or if u wanna run 500mg of test, run 400mg of Deca.

I think this actually may be "bro lore".

For example you should be fine as long as you use at least a testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) dosage of Test.

If Prolactin/Deca sides are experienced a dopamine agonist would fix the issue.

Elevated test levels usually wont fix/prevent high prolactin sides(like deca dick or leaky nips) and wont subside till prolactin is lowered....

 

[MotorIHead]

I think this actually may be "bro lore".

For example you should be fine as long as you use at least a testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) dosage of Test.

If Prolactin/Deca sides are experienced a dopamine agonist would fix the issue.

Elevated test levels usually wont fix/prevent high prolactin sides(like deca dick or leaky nips) and wont subside till prolactin is lowered....

True, I was just saying that's a good solid base on what to do when running Deca with Test. Which if he does it like that, then it can prevent it, but it's not full proof.