2nd cycle, adding some DBOL, opinions/help

[PolandSpring5]

So my first cycle went great(sort of, will explain) After losing a lot of weight in a short time(injury) I was down to the lowest I had been since freshman year of highschool(165!!) A friend from my unit(army) had hooked me up with my first cycle. It was supposed to be 10 weeks 400mg/wk test cyp 200 mon/thurs. My start weight was 165 with 7%bf after week 8 I was 188 with 9.5%bf and my diet was on point with 350mgs protein a day and over 4000 calories I was feeling superhuman. At this point I had an injury and cut the cycle short after week 8. So week 10 and my PCT started(my guy never stops so he never pcts) He gave me clomid/nolva to pct and I took 100mgs clomid 40mgs nolva every mon/thurs. Needless to say I crashed! I felt like garbage. After doing some research the past 2 months I have put together my second cycle.

Current weight 178 7%bf
Diet will be the same as before 4000 cals 350mgs protein.

Week 1-12 500mg Test Cyp mon/thurs
Week 1-4 40mg Dbol split 10/20/10 ED
Week 14-18 50mg clomid ED
Week 14-18 40mg nolva ED

I had almost no symptoms with 400mgs test except raisin nuts and jack-rabbit libido. Slight back acne but very slight. I am hoping the dbol give a good kick and I can get over 200 with bf under 10% when Im all done. I do workouts EOD, chest/shoulders, back/bis, tris/calves, legs.

I am basically asking about the dbol and the 100mgs/week more test. Will the dbol start working on day 1? And will 100mgs more a week test feel much different?

 

[josh223]

500 or 600mg/ week (250/300 per shot) of test will be fine. Not a huge difference but you might notice.

Also Dbol is a fun addition to a cycle, 20-50mg works great I would recommend 5-6 weeks though. You will feel a pump and have better recovery first week but you will really feel it in weeks 2-4.

In my opinion running EQ, Deca Or Anavar in this cycle might be of benefit to you for the increased collagen synthesis. Deca or EQ can help your joint/connective tissue grow so it might not hurt to add.

If you choose so Eq at 400-600mg/week for 12-16 weeks should be good
or
Deca at 200-400mg/week 12 weeks
or
Anavar at 60mg/day for 6 weeks.(expensive)

In my opinion why not give it a go to help your joints out and prevent injury.

 

[josh223]

Also with Clomid you should be taking 50mg per day at the same time every day for 3-4 weeks... at least its half life is only like 24 hours I believe so you need to take it everyt day to do a proper pct

 

[PolandSpring5]

500 or 600mg/ week (250/300 per shot) of test will be fine. Not a huge difference but you might notice.

Also Dbol is a fun addition to a cycle, 20-50mg works great I would recommend 5-6 weeks though. You will feel a pump and have better recovery first week but you will really feel it in weeks 2-4.

In my opinion running EQ, Deca Or Ana Anavar (var) in this cycle might be of benefit to you for the increased collagen synthesis. Deca or EQ can help your joint/connective tissue grow so it might not hurt to add.

If you choose so Eq at 400-600mg/week for 12-16 weeks should be good
or
Deca at 200-400mg/week 12 weeks
or
Ana Anavar (var) at 60mg/day for 6 weeks.(expensive)

In my opinion why not give it a go to help your joints out and prevent injury.

I would consider EQ but since the dbol is a new addition I would like to see what sides are added with just dbol. Deca stays in your system too long and being in the military I never know what they are going to do so I dont like the idea of that. I would run Anavar (var) its easy for me to come by but I also dont like the idea of taking 2 tabs in one cycle(the dbol) due to liking my liver. I will have some Anavar (var) on hand next month but I am pretty sure I will just use that around 30mgs a day after I post cycle therapy (pct) to keep my strength. Is it safe to run the dbol 40mgs a day for 6 weeks? I think for this cycle I will try 4 weeks and see how much of a pump I get and what reaction I have to it and possible step it up the next cycle. I am just hoping the dbol hit me on day 1 because the last cyp only cycle I did I wasnt getting much for gains as I would have hoped until the end, then I cut it short.

 

[josh223]

I understand bro but dbol is a lot more mild then people make it out to be.

The only reason why I recommended eq/deca/ Anavar (var) was because you mentioned an injury I was assuming it was from working out though I may be incorrect.

The fact that Anavar (var) can help joint tissue growth would help during cycle because if you get hurt during a cycle then you can't keep lifting and all your gains will be lost. No fun

Dbol will contribute to massive strength gains and if you have had an injury before you are possibly prone to another one especially while lifting heavy weights on a steroid cycle.

Just trying to offer my opinion run what you want bro but no dbol will not wreck your liver even if you run it for 8-10 weeks as long as your doses are not crazy high and your monitoring your BP and possibly getting blood test you should be 100% safe.