2nd Cycle Opinions Test/Primo/ W/Tbol or Var?

[thomasre]

I'm really interested on running primo/test and/or Anavar (var). I have one cycle under my belt. 8 weeks of test prop(500mg). I made good gains but didn't really see good results due to poor diet.

I will have 10 vials of 100mg/ml pimo. I've read that long cycles is best for primo. But I also read that a higher dose is reccomended. I was thinking maybe 600mg for 14 weeks or 12.5 weeks at 800mg. Test dosage I'm unsure of. Maybe 250-350? If I also have 200 10mg tabs of tbol I was thinking of using for a kicker. Or I could get Anavar (var). I have a proper PCT lined up with nolva/clomid and Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) for the last two weeks. Any ideas would be welcomed! Thanks.

I'm 6'1" 200lbs @ 11% bf.

 

[gT0]

So...how will your diet look this time around?

 

[thomasre]

So...how will your diet look this time around?

Im at school. So I have access to an abundance of food. I aim for 250g of protein a day at least. I've done enough research now to fully develop a diet. So that's under lock.

 

[thomasre]

bump

 

[Manski]

You running test p again ? The primo I would personally run at 600 for 14 weeks. Never used tbol so no commit. Anavar I used for a short period of 4 weeks and liked it. Are you cutting or what ?

 

[DreDay187]

You should have enough Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) for the duration of the cycle, an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) (that you use, not just keep on hand), and blood work.

 

[DreDay187]

Also like Manski is pointing out, test prop probably isn't the best idea to go with primo. You'd want a longer estered test base like enanthate or cypionate

 

[thomasre]

Ok will do. How much Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) should I run per week? I was thinking a maintenance dose of test. Like 250/wk 600 primo tbol week 1-4 Anavar (var) 10-14.

 

[Swole78]

Truthfully, I think 600 primo is too low and 14 weeks is too short. My last primo cycle looked like this...

Test E - 500
Primo - 1000

26 weeks long

I ended this with an 8 week run of anavar at 75mg per day (weeks 18-26)

This was actually one of my best cycles and managed to cut down to a solid 220lbs @ 6.28% BF (using dexa scan)

Please keep in mind I've been cycling for 14 years so I know how my body reacts to certain compounds and what my limits are...

Bottom line, I would not run primo any less than 800, and for no shorter than 18 weeks.

I know it's costly, but if I were you I would save the primo and buy more when you get the chance.

 

[Swole78]

oh, and I would recommend 250IU of Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) per week to start. Either than or no Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) and do a blast and the end of your cycle before starting your PCT.

 

[smartbuy1988]

Age: 25y
H&W: 190 cm, 105 kg
training: 5 years

1st cycle - TESTO Enanthate (galenika DEPO) - (12 weeks): 500mg


2nd cycle:

1-4 week TESTOSTERONE PROPIONATE (100 mg EOD) - "kickstart"
1-12 week TESTOSTERONE ENANTHATE (500 mg / week)
1-12 week PRIMOBOLAN (500 mg / week)
8-12 week ANAVAR (70 mg ED)

Is this cycle OK (for lean muscle mass, "little cutting" and athletics performance (i play tennis intensely at least two times a week - 2 hours) ????

Diet: 400g PROTEINS, 100g CARBS around a training and 100g of healthy FAT.


Thanks!

 

[SamSport]

Age: 25y
H&W: 190 cm, 105 kg
training: 5 years

1st cycle - TESTO Enanthate (galenika DEPO) - (12 weeks): 500mg


2nd cycle:

1-4 week TESTOSTERONE PROPIONATE (100 mg EOD) - "kickstart"
1-12 week TESTOSTERONE ENANTHATE (500 mg / week)
1-12 week PRIMOBOLAN (500 mg / week)
8-12 week ANAVAR (70 mg ED)

Is this cycle OK (for lean muscle mass, "little cutting" and athletics performance (i play tennis intensely at least two times a week - 2 hours) ????

Diet: 400g PROTEINS, 100g CARBS around a training and 100g of healthy FAT.


Thanks!

First, open your own thread. Second, your diet isnt right. third, I'd run primo at 700-800 /week for 14 weeks

 

[Bespinoza]

Hey guys, I'm wondering what my dose should be for test e and primo I'm thinking about taking 1 ml of both of them every other day and 40 mg of tbol every day lmk thanks

 

[Bespinoza]

Bulking cycle, test e promo and tbol

Hey guys, I'm wondering what my dose should be for test e and primo I'm thinking about taking 1 ml of both of them every other day and 40 mg of tbol every day lmk thanks

 

[Manski]

Hey guys, I'm wondering what my dose should be for test e and primo I'm thinking about taking 1 ml of both of them every other day and 40 mg of tbol every day lmk thanks

Your stealing someone else's thread bro, open your own and ask those questions