2nd cycle Test C/ EQ/ Var

[zoolander007]

Hey guys! Well I havent been on the forum for almost a year now and now I need advice FAST lol since I got an apportunity to buy my gear this week from my source.

So my first cycle was Test E 400 week for 12 weeks stacked with Anavar 50 mg last 5 weeks. Was good, however since I do a lot of fucking acne , it was so so....

Now Im about to do my second cycle. What I would like to do is Equipoise/ Var only without any Test before of the acne... And I hear mixed thoughts about it, of course most people say that I gotta have Test in it because of sexual problems if not...

But I think if I use properly HCG during and after with a good PCT with planty of Clomid , I think I would be ok no?


But if not....and if I must add some Test in it, here,s what my cycle would like:

week 1-10 Test C 250mg/week
week 1-15 EQ 400 mg/week
week 10-15 Var 50 mg / week

PCT Clomid

I need to know whats the proper amount of Clomid I need and also when to start it. Then for Aromasin as an A.I , I dont think Im gonna need it, you think I will? Im very lean 8 %. Finally how to split my HCG , when to take it etc.

So basically those are my questions, and yes I read a lot about it but there are always mixes thoughts, so please just let me know how you feel about it.

1- Do I really need test if I do a good PCT?
2 - Are the amount fine?
3 - post cycle therapy (pct), A.I and HCG Questions above

Finally, and thats the most important. As I told you, I do acne easily. Thats why Im on ACCUTANE right now!! Im 3 months and a half in my treatment, Ill be taking it for at least 6 months, my skin is getting very nice, but I wouldnt want to mess up everything with the freaking Test! Thats why Im so interessed by EQ since its 50% less androgenic!

Anyway if I do take Test with it at a low dose, do you guys think it,ll be ok? Like is it ok to be on gear while being on Accutane cycle??

I read somewhere else take a lot a guys was on Test while on Accutane, but once again I wanna hear from people of the Forum!!

There you go, many questions I know and yes I read a lot before asking you those infos. But like I said, it always changes from a place to an other...

Ill be waiting for some answers, thanks!

 

[zoolander007]

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[zoolander007]

hope someone will answer today

 

[Yes]

Why don't you go for a Test + Deca cycle instead ?
Do you know what was causing the acne ?

 

[zoolander007]

because Im going for the lean quality gains from Equipoise instead of the bigger gains with water retention of Deca. Overall Im way more interest in EQ than Deca.

For the acne, it was of course Test that caused it. But even if I hadnt done Test, I still would have needed a Accutane cycle to clean my skin, the Test just didnt help...

 

[Yes]

Ok so you don't want to use test either ?
Yep, that all looks good to me...

 

[zoolander007]

you mean I must add test to my cycle or its not mendatory? also would need help for the other questions I wrote above

 

[facedown]

screw EQ. Same as test just half the potency and sides. If you got that bad of acne, just get on accutane. Run test 750mg with dbol with plenty of AI.

 

[trengod79]

have you ever considered maybe your levels were never stable and thats what caused the acne? sometimes i break out when i miss shots or the dosage is different

 

[zoolander007]

nah nah....I had acne before being on Test , it just made things worse. Thats why im currently on Accutane, because I had an acne problem even without gear. The question is more : Can I do a steroid cycle while im on a Accutane cycle. Then is EQ ok without the Test, finally need to know the proper way to do my PCT.

By the way I got aromasin for A.I , since its less powerfull than Adex or Letro.

 

[zoolander007]

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[Kane_Red_Machine]

re-think your all cycle.

first you will need testosterone because your natural level will fall slowly but certainly with boldenone. so testo, with a correct amount.

It's proportinoal to the compounds you add in injection.

400 of EQ mean 400 of Test-cyp ( 0.8 cc) both twice/week ( 2 cc of boldenone 2X0.8 cc of test-cyp)

to prevent certain disfonction of HPTA, proviron need to added on this cycle. 37.25/ed is enough.

secondly test have to be a same dose of boldenone, just because it's proportionnal. it's a safe way to keep a correct amount of testo in your body through the cycle.

You HAVE to run test-cyp a lond side with boldenone then, 16 weeks to.

and finaly your will need PCT clomid, without frontload, 50mg/ed for 21 days and starting PCT 14 days after last injection.

that was for the injectable steroids in your cycle.

for the oral now, better to start with anavar, and to end with anavar. i meant, 2 cycle of oral in this cycle.

1-6 var at least 40 mg PER DAY

and 10 to 16 40 mg of PER DAY.

you level of procollagen will be on top with this association of var and boldenone.

if your diet is correct, and if you drink enough ( you have to vary the quality of the water, not always the same brand), your gain will be constant, good, and easy to keep with the PCT.

 

[zoolander007]

thanks, I will run test with my EQ. However I dont have enough test for 15 weeks, I have test for 12 weeks and EQ for 15 weeks both at 400 mg per week, so I guess I should start taking the EQ 2-3 weeks before starting stacking the Test so that I finish both at the same time.

ALso for the post cycle therapy (pct), you said , I must start Clomid 2 weeks after my last injection of EQ and Test?

Finally I bought aromasin for oestrogene control, proviron I dont have it since its apparently hard for hair. So aromasin will be fine?

No need for HCG? I dont have it...I guess my nuts will shrink a little during the cycle, but after my clomid post cycle therapy (pct), it,ll be back to normal?

 

[Kane_Red_Machine]

aromasin is fine, but take it only if you have sign of gyno or estrogen sign, bad water-retention, etc,

normaly you will get no estrogen signs.

in this cycle you could start test after, concidering than EQ is structuraly closer of testosterone, beeing an testo derivative. but in the futur you have to get all what you need before to start anything, yes it cost as hell, and it need time, but it's the game we are playing.

take the time to get HCG, but i will advise it, personnaly i figure it's useless, or just at the end of the cycle week 10 to 16 at 250 U.I every 4 days.

don't overdose HCG, it could bring gyno sign by itself.

 

[llD3MONll]

thanks, I will run test with my EQ. However I dont have enough test for 15 weeks, I have test for 12 weeks and EQ for 15 weeks both at 400 mg per week, so I guess I should start taking the EQ 2-3 weeks before starting stacking the Test so that I finish both at the same time.

ALso for the post cycle therapy (pct), you said , I must start Clomid 2 weeks after my last injection of EQ and Test?

Finally I bought aromasin for oestrogene control, proviron I dont have it since its apparently hard for hair. So aromasin will be fine?

No need for HCG? I dont have it...I guess my nuts will shrink a little during the cycle, but after my clomid post cycle therapy (pct), it,ll be back to normal?

if you run the eq, run it minimum 16weeks, i just rapped up a 20 week cycle of test,eq and didnt start getting the results from the eq until week 14ish, was awsome around 17-18 then i stopped it so i had time to clear system in time for post cycle therapy (pct). stop your eq 2 weeks before your test that way u have amp time for it to clear. shit stays in your system forever. Just get some more test and run a longer cycle or just save the eq for another one, ur going to waste it running it that short. also i was running 750mg of eq. you have to run it higher to get the results, its a weaker steroid compared to test. just my personal opinion and experience with them. hope it helped

 

[llD3MONll]

i dont run Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) and recover just fine, and yes your nuts will come back dude, just stick to your pct and keep eating and training

 

[zoolander007]

thats perfect, thanks a lot to both of you!

So just one last thing, heres the exact amount of what I have, so I know its not perfect but just to be sure, when to start and what to end first etc.

5000 mg test, 9000 EQ. Im gonna forget the Var for this time.

So If I do 400 mg test I have for 12weeks , and EQ at 500 mg I have 18 weeks, since its better to run it longuer, cause the gains are slow but steady.

So I know I should need a little more test, but for know , tahts what I have and like I said for the dosage, I wont go higher than 400 because of acne etc. If I could go at only 300 mg Test for 16 weeks I would. But I think It wouldnt be enough to see some gains.

So I say 400 mg test with barely more EQ at 500 mg will be just fine.

Now since I have only 12 weeks test, what should I do. Like Kane said, I Could start EQ 2 weeks before Test, but then I will end Test 4 weeks before ending my EQ.

So should I do 3 weeks before and 3 weeks after?

That would look something like that:

week 1-3 EQ 500mg
week 4-15 Test 400 mg / EQ 500 mg
week 15-18 EQ 500 mg

PCT when exactly, since I stop the test before. Should I start it right after my last pin of EQ or still 2 weeks? and 50,50,50,50 or something a little different?

Sorry again for bothering...

Thanks!

 

[Kane_Red_Machine]

i would stop the EQ at the 15 week with the testo.

the post cycle therapy (pct) have to start 14 days after the last injection, whatever the compounds used is.

you've understud 14 days after the testo, no, 14 days after last pin.

 

[zoolander007]

Perfect thanks a lot again!

So that will be my cycle

week 1-3 EQ 400 mg
week 4-15 test 400 mg / EQ 400 mg
week 17-20 Clomid 50,50,50,50 mg
Aromasin 25 mg every other day, so 12.5 mg day. Gonna start it around week 6-7.


hope It woll be fine with my Accutane and also taht It wont bring too much acne back. I shouldnt since my acne is getting under control now.

 

[zoolander007]

ok, now I need Help for post cycle therapy (pct) and anti-oestrogenes...

I was gonna use aromasin during and Clomid after. but now theres a lot a people that tell me they do it differently..

Nolva is way safer than Clomid and apparently brings back the Natural test level way more than Clomid. Then some people use Aromasin during their post cycle therapy (pct) also . And some even use Nolva during their cycle...

Fuck this is soooo complicated lol.

So how should I take my aromasin, nolva, clomid, during, after....

Thanks again