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I eat 5,500 cals ED. I can't stand it. My diet is mostly moderate prot, high carb, low fat. It's so difficult to intake such amount of carbs coming from fiber mainly. I do add in maybe like 150-200g of fat though. Not on purpose, it just racks up over time.

Does any 1 know if I switch out like a lot of the fiber for sugar based foods. More like bars, cookies to help get the food down, would it cause a problem long term for health? I'd prob still be getting in like 250g+ fiber alone from oats and pasta. Let alone the huge amount of protein intake too. I just don't want to make myself diabetic from doing this.

The cal amount needed to grow is causing me a lot of issues. Hardly put on any weight last week cause of this.

It's hard to say. Some are genetically predisposed.. some can handle eating shit consistently for their entire lives.

Once you start getting into higher calories.. you add more fats. Can have PB with EVERYTHING lol

But seriously.. if you start eating bad food, in higher quantities, and consistently you will need to be extra cautious and monitor your health even more closely.

See, when you want to add bad food in to help with satiety.. how much is it? 10% of your food is 500 calories.. 20%, 1000.. if you're trading out fiber for 1000 calories of simple sugars.. you may develop some problems yes. Approach this with caution.
 
I eat 5,500 cals ED. I can't stand it. My diet is mostly moderate prot, high carb, low fat. It's so difficult to intake such amount of carbs coming from fiber mainly. I do add in maybe like 150-200g of fat though. Not on purpose, it just racks up over time.

Does any 1 know if I switch out like a lot of the fiber for sugar based foods. More like bars, cookies to help get the food down, would it cause a problem long term for health? I'd prob still be getting in like 250g+ fiber alone from oats and pasta. Let alone the huge amount of protein intake too. I just don't want to make myself diabetic from doing this.

The cal amount needed to grow is causing me a lot of issues. Hardly put on any weight last week cause of this.


eating high high calories and LOW fat,, no wonder you can't stand to eat. Fat is an essential nutrient, it contains more then twice the amount of calories per gram then either protein or carbs. If you want to consume more calories, with less 'volume' of food, increase your fat content and lower the carbs.
imo, don't add sugar to add calories, add FAT. sugar is non-essential and has its own health consequences and should be had in moderation. Healthy fats (which most all fats are healthy) are a way better choice and are more calorie dense.

you could eat nearly twice as LIITLE food as your eating now and still get the same amount of calories in by dropping the amount of carbs and adding fat.
carbs contain 4 calories per gram - fat contains 9 calories per gram

you only need as many carbs is as needed to restore and replenish gycogens stores from you workouts (thats it, nothing more). carbs are the most non-essential foods needed. Not sure why your bulking up on 5500 calories of mainly Carbs and little fat and only moderate protein.
 
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eating high high calories and LOW fat,, no wonder you can't stand to eat. Fat is an essential nutrient, it contains more then twice the amount of calories per gram then either protein or carbs. If you want to consume more calories, with less 'volume' of food, increase your fat content and lower the carbs.
imo, don't add sugar to add calories, add FAT. sugar is non-essential and has its own health consequences and should be had in moderation. Healthy fats (which most all fats are healthy) are a way better choice and are more calorie dense.

you could eat nearly twice as LIITLE food as your eating now and still get the same amount of calories in by dropping the amount of carbs and adding fat.
carbs contain 4 calories per gram - fat contains 9 calories per gram

you only need as many carbs is as needed to restore and replenish gycogens stores from you workouts (thats it, nothing more). carbs are the most non-essential foods needed. Not sure why your bulking up on 5500 calories of mainly Carbs and little fat and only moderate protein.

Fat is pretty diverse too. Not that carbs aren't... but what makes a meal go down easier? Bacon, or Sugar? I'd pile on the bacon, oil, nuts, butter, peanut butter.. before I would ever pile on sugars.. If you wanna make carbs easier to consume, mash your potatoes and add butter. lol :)

AND with the above fat listings.. you'll usually get a good deal of fiber, fat, and protein from added nuts, protein and fats from adding fattier meats.. my go to additions if I'm having a hard time eating. I find it way easier to eat with no carbs altogether actually.

Delicious meats, nuts, oils, butter, whole eggs.. It's like getting to eat the best of two groups but having to sacrifice eating from the other one altogether. Carbs suck anyway, they make me feel like garbage.. their only benefit to me is their price..
 
DaMN pb is my devil.at one time I was going through half a.500g jar of pb a day haha, haven't had pb for.a.month now lol
just regular salted peanuts good for ya then?.fn cashews are so.expensive here in Canada, looking to add more quality.fats as well to.my diet and keep.the carbs timed for pre/post wo
 
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eating high high calories and LOW fat,, no wonder you can't stand to eat. Fat is an essential nutrient, it contains more then twice the amount of calories per gram then either protein or carbs. If you want to consume more calories, with less 'volume' of food, increase your fat content and lower the carbs.
imo, don't add sugar to add calories, add FAT. sugar is non-essential and has its own health consequences and should be had in moderation. Healthy fats (which most all fats are healthy) are a way better choice and are more calorie dense.

you could eat nearly twice as LIITLE food as your eating now and still get the same amount of calories in by dropping the amount of carbs and adding fat.
carbs contain 4 calories per gram - fat contains 9 calories per gram

you only need as many carbs is as needed to restore and replenish gycogens stores from you workouts (thats it, nothing more). carbs are the most non-essential foods needed. Not sure why your bulking up on 5500 calories of mainly Carbs and little fat and only moderate protein.

U didn't read my post on the other thread about diet that Matt posted. There is a good reason to keep fats low if u want to lean bulk year round and not have to cut so often. Water weight and sodium from carbs is easy to drop to get leaner faster, but dietary fat turns to actual BF. It's okay for a certain amount, but over eating it is way worse that over eating carbs.
 
Myself.I.do.feel.Better.on a.high pro, high fat,.low carb diet.where.I only.cosume.my carbs pre/post workout, I don't prefer.carb cycling either.as.I.love to.eat and.doesn't.matter.i could.not get use.to it
Everyones metabolism is different, but I find.I.do.better on a higher fat lower carb diet.myself, and feel alor better too
 
Anyways as of.today.my diet went out.of shit lmao
Oh well while people are boozing.and having fun I.am.sitting here munching on chips.and.candy lol, don't do this.often but I.figured what the hell at least I.won't be suffering the hangover blues, but will.be suffering the bloat the following days of.eating like.garbage haha
 
U didn't read my post on the other thread about diet that Matt posted. There is a good reason to keep fats low if u want to lean bulk year round and not have to cut so often. Water weight and sodium from carbs is easy to drop to get leaner faster, but dietary fat turns to actual BF. It's okay for a certain amount, but over eating it is way worse that over eating carbs.

water weight is one thing, but "LEAN" means 'without fat' (not without water). so if you want to stay lean (and lean bulk), that means you want to stay low in body fat percentage. getting rid of water weight is simple, but its not getting "leaner faster". lean is without body fat to begin with

Carbohydrates are responsible for fat storage in the body, not dietary fats. Carbohydrates convert to sugars in the body and these cause a release in insulin and insulin is the bodies fat storage hormone. Dietary Fat does not cause a release in insulin.
This is why people who over eat carbohydrates (like what your doing) end up becoming obese, over weight, and getting diabetes. They become insulin resistant. They burn out their pancreas producing too much insulin all the time from eating carbohydrates all the time. One of the cures, stop eating carbs and loose weight by getting on a high fat diet (a diet with 70% fat, 25% protein and virtually no carbs is one of the best weight loss/fat loss diets there is,,, both medically and in the fitness industry).

Plenty of doctors put patients on high fat, moderate protein, zero carb diets to loose weight and help with insulin sensitivity. because carbs cause fats storage, not fats.
as for how this relates to body building,, plenty of Pro's advocate a high fat, medium protein, low to no carb diet, to stay lean. Why, because they know that carbs cause the release of the bodies fats storage hormone, insulin, not fat itself.*

again, you can eat a diet of 70% fat and not only NOT get fat, but loose all your fat and get cut in the process. Your statement "dietary fat turns to actual body fat" is not true, without the presence of insulin , which is spiked by the consumption of carbohydrates.

so, imo, again bulking several thousand calories above your maintenance calories by bulking with mainly CARBS is not a great way to "lean" bulk. Your way above maintenance, You'll have trouble consuming the foods, and you'll constantly be spiking your insulin and thus fat storage.

* of course if you eat way way above your daily needs, your body in a round about way can convert protein to glucose and cause a slight spike in insulin, and thus cause some possible fat storage as well. but this is indirectly, where as Carbohydrate consumption is directly converted to glucose in the body, and the body has to do something with this raise of glucose, blood sugar (or you will die) and so there is a direct spike in insulin which job it is to get rid of the blood sugars by storing them in fat (or in muscle cells as glycogen if the muscle cells are depleted, but this is only in certain times,,,, the default is fat storage)
 
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Some good rich fats u can list hype/roush
What u guys consume
Thanks

fatty cuts of red meat, like steak. fatty portions of ground beef. the whole chicken, including dark meat with the skin on (white meat skinless lean chicken is the worst). Bacon. Salmon. Also, butter, lots and lots of butter. whole eggs. Avocados. Olives. Nuts etc..

plenty of good fats along with your protein rich meals. then, low/no fat meals with your carb meals (also with protein) which will be timed near or after your work out.

my thoughts. fats and proteins can be consumed together all the time at any meal. Fats and Carbs should not be consumed together in high amounts at all (or only in moderation). And carbs should be consumed based on the timing of your work outs. And, every meal should include protein.
If your bulking and don't mind putting on some fat, then more carbs can be taken in through out the day, and not just around the work out.

if your trying to stay really "lean" (low body fat), then it is your carbs and the timing of your carbs you need to be most concerned with, NOT your fat consumption.
you can live without carbs for the rest of your life, you will die without fats (they are essential).


** basically, you can eat a lot of the stuff that was told to you not to eat that it was bad for you because of fat (which was all propaganda by paid lobbyist from the grain industry,, of course they want you to think bacon, eggs, and milk are bad for you, that way they can sell more grain and carbs)
 
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water weight is one thing, but "LEAN" means 'without fat' (not without water). so if you want to stay lean (and lean bulk), that means you want to stay low in body fat percentage. getting rid of water weight is simple, but its not getting "leaner faster". lean is without body fat to begin with

Carbohydrates are responsible for fat storage in the body, not dietary fats. Carbohydrates convert to sugars in the body and these cause a release in insulin and insulin is the bodies fat storage hormone. Dietary Fat does not cause a release in insulin.
This is why people who over eat carbohydrates (like what your doing) end up becoming obese, over weight, and getting diabetes. They become insulin resistant. They burn out their pancreas producing too much insulin all the time from eating carbohydrates all the time. One of the cures, stop eating carbs and loose weight by getting on a high fat diet (a diet with 70% fat, 25% protein and virtually no carbs is one of the best weight loss/fat loss diets there is,,, both medically and in the fitness industry).

Plenty of doctors put patients on high fat, moderate protein, zero carb diets to loose weight and help with insulin sensitivity. because carbs cause fats storage, not fats.
as for how this relates to body building,, plenty of Pro's advocate a high fat, medium protein, low to no carb diet, to stay lean. Why, because they know that carbs cause the release of the bodies fats storage hormone, insulin, not fat itself.*

again, you can eat a diet of 70% fat and not only NOT get fat, but loose all your fat and get cut in the process. Your statement "dietary fat turns to actual body fat" is not true, without the presence of insulin , which is spiked by the consumption of carbohydrates.

so, imo, again bulking several thousand calories above your maintenance calories by bulking with mainly CARBS is not a great way to "lean" bulk. Your way above maintenance, You'll have trouble consuming the foods, and you'll constantly be spiking your insulin and thus fat storage.

* of course if you eat way way above your daily needs, your body in a round about way can convert protein to glucose and cause a slight spike in insulin, and thus cause some possible fat storage as well. but this is indirectly, where as Carbohydrate consumption is directly converted to glucose in the body, and the body has to do something with this raise of glucose, blood sugar (or you will die) and so there is a direct spike in insulin which job it is to get rid of the blood sugars by storing them in fat (or in muscle cells as glycogen if the muscle cells are depleted, but this is only in certain times,,,, the default is fat storage)

Roush, I like you, but the bolded isn't exactly accurate. It always has been, always will be, and is calories in versus calories out. Yes, carbohydrate intake does trigger insulin release; and yes, insulin does shuttle nutrients into the cells of the body (including fat cells), but the negatives ONLY are truly an issue IF the individual is consuming more calories than they are putting to use.

Ketogenic diets are easily one of the most effective ways to lose weight, but they will not prevent one from gaining body fat if calories are higher than TDEE by too large of a margin. I'm a diabetic, and while I do appreciate much of the information being spread about being cautious with what we eat, carbohydrates are not an evil that must be forsaken from diets for healthy folks.

It's just a balancing act where we have to make informed decisions regarding what we put in our bodies. I would look at the micronutrient content on top of the macronutrient makeup of a diet when making decisions. I wholeheartedly agree that eating simple sugars with little else to offer is a poor decision nutrition-wise, but so is eating a stick of butter (just an example) to try to bring calories up to meet a specific goal.

Not picking on you, I just have noticed a trend towards pushing away a totally viable way of reaching nutritional needs - that's all.

My .02c :)


Oh, and Matt - it's 2016. Please retire that shitty little mirror. :p
 
Oh I will new.one is in the mix with My new pad haha
Back to nutrition, i love talking nutrition cause I.am.very interested in this subject.and wanna better.myself understanding the nutrition.aspect of things
I.myself do.a lot better on a high protein, high.fat, low carb.diet, now how much fat can a human body take.to stay.relatively lean in the process of a lean bulk? What about cheese as well? Dietary fats, is that good for ya as well as in love cheese too and I could always melt some on my tuna as well to.add.some.flavor
Say looking at the nutrition value on say a pork susuage for.instance, like 25g fat, per one susuage.I look at that and I.am.like.whoa, say if your eating 3000.cals a day, protein at 300g , carbs only set carbs pre/post workout possibly 1.5 cups rice pre/post workout what would your fats look like here how high is to high for fat intake without putting on lots of fat?
Or should I drop the pre workout carbs and just stick.with carbs post workout?
 
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Meal 1

1 cup egg whites ( 8 egg whites), 2 whole eggs, 1 scoop whey protein (40g), 1 cup oatmeal

Meal 2

7 Oz chicken breast, 6 Oz lean ground beef, 1 cup veggies

Meal 3

7oz chicken breast, 1 can of tuna, 1 cup veggies

Meal 4 ( pre workout)

7oz chicken breast, 1.5 cups white rice

Meal 5 ( post workout)

1 scoop whey protein (40g), 1.5 cups white rice, 1 plain whole bagel

Meal 6

6oz lean ground beef, 1 cup no fat cottage cheese, 1 cup veggies

(Meat weighed raw, rice weighed cooked)
 
What does the current macro content look like as well on this plan? Pro/carb/ fat and calorie's
Thanks
I just haven't had time.to.sit down and figure it out that's all
 
Roush, I like you, but the bolded isn't exactly accurate. It always has been, always will be, and is calories in versus calories out. Yes, carbohydrate intake does trigger insulin release; and yes, insulin does shuttle nutrients into the cells of the body (including fat cells), but the negatives ONLY are truly an issue IF the individual is consuming more calories than they are putting to use.

so you mean like the guy I was responding to and talking about that was consuming 5500 calories a day and who wanted to ADD sugar to his diet to get even more carbs/calories in
 
I am currently on 1500mg test/week, adding in tren a at 3-400mg/week too (pin mon, wed, fri), I been on this blast now for 3 weeks, first week was running tren at 300mg/week but long story short vile sliped out of.my hand and broke.as I got more on the way come.Monday it'll.be here Damm holidays lol
And I.don't want to.get into my steroid.usage please,.Thanks
 
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so you mean like the guy I was responding to and talking about that was consuming 5500 calories a day and who wanted to ADD sugar to his diet to get even more carbs/calories in

I don't know his TDEE. Do you?

My post was about the general statements regarding carbohydrates in general, not a specific case - which I happened to agree with you on.
 
I eat 5,500 cals ED. I can't stand it. My diet is mostly moderate prot, high carb, low fat. It's so difficult to intake such amount of carbs

Does any 1 know if I switch out like a lot of the fiber for sugar based foods. More like cookies to help get the food down, would it cause a problem long term for health?

5500 cals a day, HIGH Carb low fat, and he wants to know if scarfing down sugars and cookies on top of it is a good idea

edit: oh and he is wanting to stay lean year round on this diet, lol. thats his justification for 'low fats'
 
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My tdee is also 3095
From how.much I train thus my physical job
As I work for a.moving company.so.always lifting shit
So does that plan.look.like.enough cals.or.should I.add.some more fats to.lean bulk
Thanks as I love to eat anyways and don't have a hard time sucking down food lol
 
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