3 1/2 year transformation pics ( recovering alkie)

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My tdee is also 3095
From how.much I train thus my physical job
As I work for a.moving company.so.always lifting shit
So does that plan.look.like.enough cals.or.should I.add.some more fats to.lean bulk
Thanks as I love to eat anyways and don't have a hard time sucking down food lol

I would add about 300-500 calories above maintenance to start and see how it goes with that. If your not gaining enough then add more calories. If your getting too soft then scale it back a bit or add cardio. as far a "lean bulking" sticking with high protein, moderate fat, low carb has been tried and true since the golden era of body building.. the 'High Carb' approach to supposedly 'fuel' workouts comes from power lifting and endurance athlete sports (cycling, running, etc), NOT body building. In body building you don't need excess carbs to fuel your work out, we don't run or cycle for 8 hours a day like an endurance athlete-- we train for an hour or so a day, that is it. we only need enough carbs to replenish glycogen stores in the muscle.
 
So do.u take.in carbs.pre workout as well? Or.just post workout?
If.u take.in carbs pre workout.are they complex.carbs or.simple carbs?
Give me.an example.of what a 3000 cal plan would.look like.for.u
like.just the.macro.content.
High pro, moderate.fat, low.carb diet
Thanks
 
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Like.as.well.pemale bacon.or however u spell it.lol.alright for ya as.it.contains.a.fair amount of fat and.would.go good.along.side some.whole.eggs :)
Like if u were going to eat high pro, moderate fats and low carbs, and carbs set for pre/ post workout and eating over 3000 cals.a.day u ar.going to be pushing over 200g of fat per day are u not?
 
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So do.u take.in carbs.pre workout as well? Or.just post workout?
If.u take.in carbs pre workout.are they complex.carbs or.simple carbs?
Give me.an example.of what a 3000 cal plan would.look like.for.u
like.just the.macro.content.
High pro, moderate.fat, low.carb diet
Thanks

high glycemic fast acting carbs post work out, low glycemic complex carbs during your other carb feedings. for example, I consume brown rice around lunch time, I workout in the late afternoon and post workout my carb consumption is a white bagel.

everyone metabolizes carbs differently, and each individual may or may not have some sensitivity to carb consumption and insulin. so a basic macro count with carbs has to be totally personal and tailored, as well as carb timing based on an individuals schedule.

example - some people with slight carb sensitivity may NOT want to eat any carbs what-so-ever in the morning time. after fasting for 8 hours they are in 'fat burning' mode and consumption of carbs will kick them out of this mode. they may do best to wait until later in the day around their afternoon work out to consume carbs. other people may do just fine costuming a small amount of carbs for breakfast.
- IFBB pro Ben Pakulski - won't eat carbs for breakfast and will save carb consumption till the end of the day around his workout
- Mike O'hearn - will consume carbs first thing in the morning, but he also works out first thing in the morning.

so it really has to be custom tuned and tailored and set up based on timing and schedule.
percentage wise though, maybe around 50% protein, 30 fat, 20 carb. but again, carbs are the tricky point and everyone is different in regards to how they tolerate carbs. some people will need to go lower, some people will do just fine with higher amounts
 
Well I don't do good on excess.carbs I feel a hell.of a lot better on low carbs so.I think.I.might just.stick with my carbs set for pre/ post wo possibly drop the 1.5 cups.rice after my workout and just stick with the whole.bagel.as.well.and.keep it complex.pre workout.as.well (.1.5 cups.brown rice)
Thanks
I workout after work.as well.around 4 or 5pm
 
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Well I don't do good on excess.carbs I feel a hell.of a lot better on low carbs so.I think.I.might just.stick with my carbs set for pre/ post wo possibly drop the 1.5 cups.rice after my workout and just stick with the whole.bagel.as.well.and.keep it complex.pre workout.as.well (.1.5 cups.brown rice)
Thanks
Thanks for the advice roush you've been great help.brother
 
That's why I love this subject
Dieting is a big aspect of your goals, training.and rest is.the easy part lol
It's.the last piece of the puzzle people.seem.to.figure.out.and that's why.myself.I.am.always.interested.in this.subject.and learn dif approaches
 
Lean bulk.. yeah, here's the secret to that. Stay 500 calories above TDEE. As you reach a plateau in growth, you will have a new TDEE, go 500 calories above that. Rinse, repeat.

In terms of strategy.. carb cycling is hard to beat in how lean and waterless it keeps you 95% of the time. It keeps your satiety high.. different macros every day, means different meals, means bulking longer without wanting to kill yourself at 7000cals, plus all the things I mentioned in my previous post regarding carb cycling to you.

I would start copy/pasting important things in Word or something. So you can go back to them.. and apply them little by little.

Lean bulking is just slow consistent gaining.. nothing crazy. Drugs help of course.. we all know that, and surely make lean bulking easier or cutting with minimal muscle loss easier. But regardless of drugs, 1lb up or down a week should be what you strive for. 1.5-+ is acceptable sometimes, 2-+ per week is bad.

The easiest way for me to determine my diet is to first find what won't change. Determine BMR, TDEE, and set a goal. Then dial in macros. If carb cycling dial in 3-4 different days macros accordingly.

BMR - 3500
TDEE - 6000
Bulk - 6500
Cut - 5500

I'll take bulk for this example. 6500 calories / per day. Average.

Protein for me is always 350-400 overall. 1600 calories ( This goes up with other foods like PB, even extra carbs will bring in more protein which is why it's so high.. ) 24% calories as protein.

Carbs without cycling we'll call it a consistent 40% calories - 2600 calories / 4 = 650g

Fats = 36% of total calories = 2,340 / 9 = 260g

So, 400g protein, 650g carbs, 260g fats. Is the distribution perfect, no.. and it'd be different cause I wouldn't start bulking at this.. my TDEE is likely much lower right now, and would gradually increase to freaky proportions of foods!

Figure out how many meals you eat per day, divide your macros in grams by meals per day. 600g carbs / 6 meals = 100g per meal. As an example.

From this point you would pick whole versions of foods that are primarily made up of one macronutrient. Choosing these foods are the healthiest and easiest way to formulate a plan.. just keeps it simpler. Adding a ton of nuts for example is good, and will be good as additions later but having a base diet or core diet that is leaned out to these primary macro foods is better to build on.

6 oz cooked chicken breast is primarily all protein, so that would be used for grams toward protein for your base. Other lean meats, tuna, salmon, strip steak, ultra lean ground beef, egg whites, whey isolate. More not listed. Do your research.

Carbs - brown rice, 100% whole wheat anything, sweet potatoes, red potatoes, oats, others. Whole, Carb dominant foods.

Fats - coconut oil, olive oil, avocado, etc. Whole, Fat dominant foods.

As you progress in a bulk you would make additions to your base plan.. if you're starting much lower than the example, most add more good carbs first, then as you get to higher loads of carbs, you'll start adding fats instead. At the above examples level, fat would be the additions.

Additions can be Frankenstein foods. Whole foods that don't necessarily have one primary macronutrient, leaning more toward the carb or fat variety but not 100%.

Planning meals is the final step. I don't necessarily think you're there yet man. You need to go back and redistribute macronutrients, learn what foods will be good for a base plan for you, build meals, make additions as necessary.
 
Damn bro good read what's your.stats anyways gotta be a big boy to be sucking in that amount of cals lol as I did that with 3j at 6000 cals a day and that's wack of.food, I just found myself even cycling.my carbs I didn't care for it what so ever
Carb cycling is.for some.and does.work.for sure but I just didn't like.it, felt way to.bloated on high carb days.and.not.so.full on.lower days I.dunno it just wasn't me.as everyone.reacts.dif to different diet approaches
 
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Not that big when I was at that caloric intake 205 but I was eating an average of 7200 daily..

That's what's hard for some to understand. Bulking can be extremely hard for people that have physical jobs. Some jobs vamp 1000-2000 calories a day. Then your workout vamps 1000. So even though my BMR might be 3500.. my TDEE can be 6500. Then to bulk, 7000.

See, the pros.. they have a very deep understanding of this. Coleman was a cop, this a good example... if I sat in a car driving. I'd pretty much be at BMR. 3500. Then a workout would use 800-1000, 4300-4500 TDEE, then to bulk 5000. That's fucking cake!! Can I afford to lose 70k a year just to bulk though... not really. So I don't have that option right now.

I have motivation issues. Yeah, because I build automobiles while walking 30 miles a day.. it becomes a pain in the ass to "hit the gym" after 6 nights a week of that.
 
That's 205lbs, 20%, 5'8".

Now I'm 190-195lbs, 15-18%, 5'8" (I float weight.. don't monitor food right now.. carbs everywhere lol)
 
5500 cals a day, HIGH Carb low fat, and he wants to know if scarfing down sugars and cookies on top of it is a good idea

edit: oh and he is wanting to stay lean year round on this diet, lol. thats his justification for 'low fats'
I think you're missing my point buddy. I don't have an issue with manipulating calories via fats or carbs. In his case, I totally agree with you in that adding cookies probably isn't the best option, but it won't suddenly make him a diabetic (assuming he actually puts the calories to use) or cause insulin resistance.

I really don't even like the term "lean bulk" as it really is more of a recomp, but it still does come down to what energy needs are. We can slightly go above TDEE in many different ways; we can increase any of the three macros (protein is the only truly "dangerous" macro to overconsume due to kidney strain) to meet this. If his TDEE is say 3000 kcals, and he wants to add 600, he could add two extra servings of brown rice, or even something like granola. Alternatively, he could also add in fatter cuts of meat, and some oils to his meals.

Both methods work fine as long as the caloric intake is equal. The ONLY exception to this is if we're talking ketosis or an individual with existing insulin resistance. Things do get a little trickier in those cases, but a calorie is still a calorie. It's getting those added nutrients along with the calories that really matters in the end.

I think we agree, but are coming at this from opposite ends of the spectrum. In fact, studies show no difference between restricted (not keto) fats and restricted carbs - with the caveat being essential requirements for fats are being met.

My tdee is also 3095
From how.much I train thus my physical job
As I work for a.moving company.so.always lifting shit
So does that plan.look.like.enough cals.or.should I.add.some more fats to.lean bulk
Thanks as I love to eat anyways and don't have a hard time sucking down food lol
The scale can answer that beyond what a TDEE calculator can to be honest. If you're in ketosis, then increasing fats is definitely the way to go. If you're not in ketosis, then you have a bit more leeway in what food choices you can choose from.
 
I think you're missing my point buddy. I don't have an issue with manipulating calories via fats or carbs. In his case, I totally agree with you in that adding cookies probably isn't the best option, but it won't suddenly make him a diabetic (assuming he actually puts the calories to use) or cause insulin resistance.

suddenly, no. but what about 'over time' ?


""Type 2 diabetes has been linked to the overconsumption of refined carbohydrates, which include white breads, pasta and many packaged snack foods. These types of carbs digest quickly and cause a rush of glucose into the blood. This increases the body's need for insulin and it's theorized that this higher demand wears out the insulin-producing cells of the pancreas leading to the onset of the disease.""

taken from a 'study',, but 'studies' are like assholes, every one has one and can use it to prove pretty much any point they want.

just curious your thoughts on the link between carbs and insulin resistance over time. wouldn't 'bulking' year round, year after year and over consuming carbs and sugars to get a surplus of calories in possibly cause health issues, like stated above
 
Matt, forego one vial of Tren and with the money saved buy the following:

1) A new mirror.
2) A keyboard where the "." is harder to press.

Just messing with ya. :)
 
Made a couple changes been sitting down figuring out my macros
so instead of the 6oz lean ground beef I upped it to 8oz, on both meals
Will write it out but my macros here as follows
My tdee is around 3100 cals

So here it is

Cals 3594
Pro 365g ( coming from protein sources)
Carb 274g
Fats 97

I will right out.my plan tonight sometime and did a couple.switches as well moved more protein for post workout as well
 
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Note moving the 7oz chicken breast from meal 2 to meal 5 post workout
Meal 2 will consist of 8oz ground beef and steamed veggies
Note 1 cup of veggies for at least 3-4 meals as well
 
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