3 1/2 year transformation pics ( recovering alkie)

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Matt0071 said:
Bro u look like some.fat blob in your avi cause your hidden by that preacher bench your sitting on and it looks like it blends in as u as a fatty serious man change your avi haha
As far as u are concerned I highly.doubt u have more gains in 2 weeks then what I have made Bro,your full of shit and ones that hate on others are the ones that are lacking.themselves, sorry bra it's facts not fiction, your nothing special, and keep cycling proper Bro u expert juicer u haha
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Matt, you need to lay off...he's doing fine.

And better than you.

For reference, less than four years ago when I stopped using rec drugs I weighed 150lbs

As of yesterday, even after a month and a half of gut problems affecting my diet and training I weigh 233lbs
 
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Roush said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_nJlwhXp5iQ

Live with Sadik - by RxMuscle. interview by Dave Palumbo

He over trains on purpose because he dose not want to grow, because the judges personally told him not to get any bigger.
If he was to take days off, and rest more, he would get too big. those are his words and strategy.




AAS use has been used in athletics for years, and years by athletes, that DO NOT WANT TO GROW. AAS use is not just about growth (depends on your goals, you think Lance Armstrong really wanted to bulk up?)
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Good point with lance and i actually thought of that after i sent it. How would the over-training benefit him? Wouldn't a change in style with more rest and better recovery help in the long run? Obviously he knows and is a champion but i am just wondering.
 
snowpatrol123 said:
Matt, you need to lay off...he's doing fine.

And better than you.

For reference, less than four years ago when I stopped using rec drugs I weighed 150lbs

As of yesterday, even after a month and a half of gut problems affecting my diet and training I weigh 233lbs
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Nomore g thongs in your pics okay
Hopefully u gave up on thongs bro and atleast got some real undies
BUT I do.give u props for.stopping your drug use, and props for.your physique as well brother, looking great bra
 
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Ok Boys, Took me a while to refurbish my routine, but it's done.

Push (Chest, Shoulders, Triceps):
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Flat: 2 Warm Up, 5 Working Sets
Flies: 5 Working Sets
Incline: 5 Working Sets
Lateral Raise: 5 Working Sets
Straight Bar + DB Front Raise Supersets: 5 Working Sets
Shoulder Press: 5 Working Sets
Tricep Triangle + Straight Bar SuperSets: 5 Working Sets
Tricep Extenstions: 5 Working Sets
BW Dips: 3 Working Sets



Pull (Back, Rear Delts, Traps, Biceps, Forearms):
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T-Bar: 2 Warm Up, 5 Working Sets
Angled-Row Machine: 5 Working Sets
Straight Row Machine: 5 Working Sets
Wide Grip Lats: 5 Working Sets
Close Grip Lats: 5 Working Sets
Smith Shrugs + DB Supersets: 5 Working Sets
Hammer + Plate Curls Supersets: 5 Working Sets
Preacher Curls: 5 Working Sets
Front Forearm Cable Curls: 5 Working Sets
Rev Delts: 5 Working Sets



Legs (Quads, Hams, Calves, Abs):
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Hack Squat: 2 Warm Up, 5 Working Sets
Quad Ext: 5 Working Sets
Ham Ext: 5 Working Sets
Leg Press: 5 Working Sets
Seated Calves: 5 Working Sets
Calve Exts: 5 Working Sets
Upper Abs: 5 Working Sets
Lower Abs: 5 Working Sets
Obliques: 5 Working Sets

*Routine: P,P,L, Rest, P, P, L = 7 Days of the Week in Order
*Each Workout Reduce to Max of 1.5 Hours Only
*All Training Sets To Absolute Failure.
*During Cutting time, 30 Minutes Low Intensity Cardio w/130 Heart Rate ED after Work Out.
*Rest Days Contain 60 minute Low Intensity Cardio w/Same Macros.


I am currently cutting and thanks to 3J's advice, I found out a good cardio routine. So I plan ED to workout with the above routines and FINISH THEM BEFORE 1.5 HOURS PASSES BY and THEN I WILL do 30 MINUTES OF LOW-INTENSITY CARDIO when my glycogen is depleted at a heart rate of 130 and no where above that, so that fat is only burning. I will eventually up my cardio to 45-50 minutes or maybe even a hour, IF I choose to not reduce my carbs.

So final results: 1.5 Hours in weight room + 30 minutes low intensity cardio = 2 Hours in the gym ED.


PS: I know some of u guys will STILL say, that the volume is beyond high, but I am firm that I can finish this workout within 1.5 hours. I managed to reduce my old workout to 2 hours and the way I ran it, was that every 1 Set contained a drop set of 4 mini sets. So the workout to me above, should not be a issue. Any last minute advice is always fantastic.


EDIT: I am still OPEN TO ADVICE OR DEBATE FROM PEOPLE. I Personally feel that this routine is good IMO for my needs, HOWEVER, if any 1 wants to place some input, I would DEFO appreciate it. If you did add advice, Try to stick with similar exercises. I've been told time and time again about deads, and I am sure it makes a diff, but It is something I'm not Willing to try as of RIGHT NOW. Atleast, I would like to wait till my next bulk. The last thing I need is a injury during a cut.
 
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Hey Matt. I've been following your threads and discussions, honestly I find them very interesting as they do get many people involved, and of course they become very intense and quite entertaining. But I wanted to get some clarification from you about your purposes and expectations, because I hear what you say, but much of it is a lot of anger and threats towards people, for example a person who weighs 175 and is happy with his physique. I don't know why you say that anyone on gear shouldn't weigh less than 200lbs. Bodybuilding is about your overall physical proportion and development or muscle clarity, weight means nothing unless you are competing at a specific weight. People consistently assume I am 200-210, and it's an illusion that I look that big because I truly weighed at 176 today. So in your opinion, would you call me a skinny small swimmer who's just a waste of gear? Anyway, I won't drag this out because it could be a long conversation, but there's a lot about you that I would like to understand, if you don't mind calmly talking about it. Thanks. And by the way, congrats on being sober and putting your focus and effort towards something great. That must have been very difficult, so you should stay proud of that incredible accomplishment.
 
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Hey Matt. I've been following your threads and discussions, honestly I find them very interesting as they do get many people involved, and of course they become very intense and quite entertaining. But I wanted to get some clarification from you about your purposes and expectations, because I hear what you say, but much of it is a lot of anger and threats towards people, for example a person who weighs 175 and is happy with his physique. I don't know why you say that anyone on gear shouldn't weigh less than 200lbs. Bodybuilding is about your overall physical proportion and development or muscle clarity, weight means nothing unless you are competing at a specific weight. People consistently assume I am 200-210, and it's an illusion that I look that big because I truly weighed at 176 today. So in your opinion, would you call me a skinny small swimmer who's just a waste of gear? Anyway, I won't drag this out because it could be a long conversation, but there's a lot about you that I would like to understand, if you don't mind calmly talking about it. Thanks. And by the way, congrats on being sober and putting your focus and effort towards something great. That must have been very difficult, so you should stay proud of that incredible accomplishment.
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I'm not Matt, and I understand you've directed this post toward him.. but I'd like to give my opinion here anyway since you posted this on an open forum's thread :D

If you're happy with your body at 175lbs and you think you can justify being on gear and being that weight.. who cares?

If I was 175 at 5'8" but 6% BF.. I'd be cool with that for a while. I'd have a hard time maintaining that health-wise.. but I'd be proud of those stats. That's around 167lbs of lean mass.. about what I'd be right now if I cut that low (perhaps a little higher, but still).

Personally, I wouldn't be particularly impressed with myself if I was 175lbs at 15% BF and using AAS though.

I do think Matt's statement is a tad harsh.. because peoples compositions vary widely, height varies widely, adherence to AAS, diet, and training all varies so much.. 200lbs on AAS is too general to even care about. I would have passed that statement off personally.

Here is some examples of why that shit doesn't matter :

6ft 5in - 200lbs - 10% bodyfat (thin as a rail)

5ft 8in - 200lbs - 10% bodyfat (beefy but cut as fuck)

6ft 5in - 200lbs - 20% bodyfat (very awkward, low lean mass, chubby, and tall)

5ft 8in - 200lbs - 20% bodyfat (chunky but still decently muscular for height)

Any one of these individuals could be using AAS. The first guy isn't eating enough, too tall, too small.. but he's still 200lbs like Matt says is okay for someone using AAS.

The last guy is pretty chunky (I've been there, exactly there), but he's built some mass, using AAS, but technically if he cut down he'd be 175-185 before really looking great.. then would Matt's statement hold true? He used AAS to get up.. cut down.. maybe used AAS for that too, but now he's only 175lbs so he's puny compared to Matt's vision of all AAS users..

Just clarifying that his statement there holds no weight.. 212lbs is a division for the Olympia. There are 100s of divisions below that one even.. and surprise, below 200lbs.. and those guys juice too :)

Pass it off and move on!
 
Hey I'm sorry, I didn't realize I was messaging you. But thanks for the info. I agree with everything you said, which is the reason I wanted to share that info with Matt, because he seems like the number on the scale determines your results, but clearly that's a minor factor in one's physique due to all the variables for each person.
 
Tha Rock said:
Hey I'm sorry, I didn't realize I was messaging you. But thanks for the info. I agree with everything you said, which is the reason I wanted to share that info with Matt, because he seems like the number on the scale determines your results, but clearly that's a minor factor in one's physique due to all the variables for each person.
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Not sure if that first sentence was you being an ass or...... anyway..

It is personal preference at the end of the day. A grown adult should be able to look at themselves and know when they've done well or not and leave it at that. They should also know to worry about themselves unless personally asked to critique another individuals body, or AAS use.
 
Does anyone know if Matt's gym allows him to wear those cut shirts with his nipples hanging out?

I've never seen anyone at any gym wearing something like that
 
Guy I've worked with is about 175lbs or so. Guy holds national pl titles. Strong, ripped lil son of a bitch! He's probably 5'8" or so. 6 pack and all. Deadlifts over 500 for reps. Benches over 500 for reps. He's gifted and doesn't run much gear at all. I wouldn't listen to much about what matt debates...
 
omgmike1 said:
Ok Boys, Took me a while to refurbish my routine, but it's done.

Push (Chest, Shoulders, Triceps):
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Flat: 2 Warm Up, 5 Working Sets
Flies: 5 Working Sets
Incline: 5 Working Sets
Lateral Raise: 5 Working Sets
Straight Bar + DB Front Raise Supersets: 5 Working Sets
Shoulder Press: 5 Working Sets
Tricep Triangle + Straight Bar SuperSets: 5 Working Sets
Tricep Extenstions: 5 Working Sets
BW Dips: 3 Working Sets



Pull (Back, Rear Delts, Traps, Biceps, Forearms):
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T-Bar: 2 Warm Up, 5 Working Sets
Angled-Row Machine: 5 Working Sets
Straight Row Machine: 5 Working Sets
Wide Grip Lats: 5 Working Sets
Close Grip Lats: 5 Working Sets
Smith Shrugs + DB Supersets: 5 Working Sets
Hammer + Plate Curls Supersets: 5 Working Sets
Preacher Curls: 5 Working Sets
Front Forearm Cable Curls: 5 Working Sets
Rev Delts: 5 Working Sets



Legs (Quads, Hams, Calves, Abs):
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Hack Squat: 2 Warm Up, 5 Working Sets
Quad Ext: 5 Working Sets
Ham Ext: 5 Working Sets
Leg Press: 5 Working Sets
Seated Calves: 5 Working Sets
Calve Exts: 5 Working Sets
Upper Abs: 5 Working Sets
Lower Abs: 5 Working Sets
Obliques: 5 Working Sets

*Routine: P,P,L, Rest, P, P, L = 7 Days of the Week in Order
*Each Workout Reduce to Max of 1.5 Hours Only
*All Training Sets To Absolute Failure.
*During Cutting time, 30 Minutes Low Intensity Cardio w/130 Heart Rate ED after Work Out.
*Rest Days Contain 60 minute Low Intensity Cardio w/Same Macros.


I am currently cutting and thanks to 3J's advice, I found out a good cardio routine. So I plan ED to workout with the above routines and FINISH THEM BEFORE 1.5 HOURS PASSES BY and THEN I WILL do 30 MINUTES OF LOW-INTENSITY CARDIO when my glycogen is depleted at a heart rate of 130 and no where above that, so that fat is only burning. I will eventually up my cardio to 45-50 minutes or maybe even a hour, IF I choose to not reduce my carbs.

So final results: 1.5 Hours in weight room + 30 minutes low intensity cardio = 2 Hours in the gym ED.


PS: I know some of u guys will STILL say, that the volume is beyond high, but I am firm that I can finish this workout within 1.5 hours. I managed to reduce my old workout to 2 hours and the way I ran it, was that every 1 Set contained a drop set of 4 mini sets. So the workout to me above, should not be a issue. Any last minute advice is always fantastic.


EDIT: I am still OPEN TO ADVICE OR DEBATE FROM PEOPLE. I Personally feel that this routine is good IMO for my needs, HOWEVER, if any 1 wants to place some input, I would DEFO appreciate it. If you did add advice, Try to stick with similar exercises. I've been told time and time again about deads, and I am sure it makes a diff, but It is something I'm not Willing to try as of RIGHT NOW. Atleast, I would like to wait till my next bulk. The last thing I need is a injury during a cut.
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Your doing 40-50 working setes to failure during your training. That's over training. Try cutiing your sets back to one with failure and 2 drop sets. Machines are a lot easier to use then free weights. If your worried about injuries then your going too heavy. At the end of the day, you will decide what your going to do. I will say that most who use machines already have a good physique and are on the older side. You being in your early 20's and limiting yourself to just machines isn't fair to what you could accomplish if you would get out of your comfort zone. Your doing a lot of over training which would result in a better chance of injury then going to actual failure with free weights for one set. Check your ego and watch the growth...
 
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Your doing 40-50 working setes to failure during your training. That's over training. Try cutiing your sets back to one with failure and 2 drop sets. Machines are a lot easier to use then free weights. If your worried about injuries then your going too heavy. At the end of the day, you will decide what your going to do. I will say that most who use machines already have a good physique and are on the older side. You being in your early 20's and limiting yourself to just machines isn't fair to what you could accomplish if you would get out of your comfort zone. Your doing a lot of over training which would result in a better chance of injury then going to actual failure with free weights for one set. Check your ego and watch the growth...
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Okay, Spent a LOAD of time and decided to make a new routine using the DC Style. I have no idea how long this is going to take me to do:

Week 1: Mon= A, Tue= C/Cardio, Wed = B, Thursd = Cardio, Fri = A, Sat = C/Cardio, Sun = Cardio
Week 2: Mon= B, Tue= C/Cardio, Wed = A, Thursd = Cardio, Fri = B, Sat = C/Cardio, Sun = Cardio
~Repeat


Day A (Chest, Shoulders, Triceps, Back Width, Back Thickness):
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1 Incline (RP) 11-15 Total
3 Flat-bench (RP) 11-15 Total
5 Straight Chest press (RP) 11-15 Total

1 Military press (RP) 11-20 Total
3 Med-grip upright rows (RP) 11-15 Total
5 Shoulder presses (RP) 11-20 Total

1 Close-grip bench press (RP) 11-20 Total
3 Triceps extensions (RP) 15-30 Total
5 Machine dips 11-20 (RP) 11-20 Total

1 Underhand pulldown machine (RP) 11-15 Total
3 Front Wide-grip pulldowns (RP) 11-15 Total
5 Close-grip pulldowns (RP) 11-15 Total

1 Deadlift (NO) 6-9 and 9-12 Total
3 Rack deadlifts (NO) 6-9 and 9-12 Total
5 T-bar rows (NO) 10-12 Total


Day B (biceps, forearms, calves, hamstrings, quads):
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2 EZ Barbell Curls (RP) 11-20 Total
4 Hammer Curls (RP) 11-20 Total
6 Preacher Curls (RP) 11-20 Total

2 Slow Front Plate Curls (NO) 10-20 Total
4 Barbell wrist curls (NO) 10-20 Total
6 Cable Front curls (NO) 10-20 Total

2 Leg-press Calves (NO) 10-12 Total
4 Smith Machine Calves (NO) 10-12 Total
6 Seated Calve Raises (NO) 10-12 Total
~All Reps done with Slow and Full Strech~

2 Lying Leg curls (RP) 15-30 Total
4 Sumo leg press (NO) 15-25 Total
6 Seated Leg curls (RP) 15-30 Total

2 Squats (NO) 4-8 and 20+ Total
4 Hack Squats (NO) 4-8 and 20+ Total
6 Leg presses 4-8 (NO) 20+ Total


Day C (Front Abs, Lower Abs, Side Abs):
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3 Plate Side bends (RP) 11-15 Total
3 Ab Crunches (RP) 11-15 Total
3 Leg Raises (RP) 11+ Total



Only Problem with this routine IMO is deadlifts and rack pulls. Haven't done those in years and not very familiar with them..
 
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omgmike1 said:
Only Problem with this routine IMO is deadlifts and rack pulls. Haven't done those in years and not very familiar with them..
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get familiar then, and as always, leave the ego at the door. I just deadlifted 310x7 and i just started deadlifting again a month ago...its a great unbeatable exercise for strength and size
 
Just keep the weight light and practice good form. I couldn't crack out 25 pull ups my first shot. Takes time and practice. It is called TRAINING, after all...
 
You can also periodize your training. Increase intensity weekly to a crescendo then drop back to 60-70% and slowly increase again. Each cycle try different methods and/or exercises but keep ramping up intensity until your at the overtraining threshold. Constant overtraining can limit gains and lead to injury, might try that partner
 
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