44 year old male on trt with cycle questions.

[Mark1972]

I have been on yet for 1 year. My current dose is 125mg test c per week (2 shots of roughly 60 mg). I have done a couple of 10-12 week blast cycles of 500mg test c per week (250mg shots 2x/week) recently with 10-12 week rest in between. I am considering a new cycle with npp but I have some specific questions. Since I am already on trt would it make since for me to do a dbol/tbol kicker to start? Even though I am on trt it would take a few weeks for the increased (roughly 500-600mg per week) to reach therapeutic levels. I was thinking it my be a good idea to use the dbol/tbol kickstart for 3-4 weeks. Any advice would be appreciated. If this has already been asked and answered I apologize.

 

[Megatron28]

Being on TRT should not play into your decision of whether or not you want to do a kicker at the beginning with an oral steroid.

 

[Rockymtn]

If you mess with nandrolone while on TRT, you better watch your hematocrit levels!!!

 

[Roush]

If you mess with nandrolone while on TRT, you better watch your hematocrit levels!!!

^ sound advice . first hand experience with this issue over years myself

 

[Teutonic]

I read your opening twice and welcome !

What kind of shape are you in ? I oft ask for an avi or photo to be provided as "a piccie is worth a long ass opener ".
Way to many men are on trt w-o going the extra mile to get right using trt med s to get tight.
I m not saying you but many guy s are and it s usually this control group that people like to use as an example that AAS are bad.
Same group who have led the Viaga commercial s to add " ask ur doc if your healthy enuff to have sex " disclaimor.

With relation to kickstart a cycle d bol work s, t bol work s too. Each has it s own lil issue s w it s own fixes. Deca s cool sure but it s blood thickererer for me...my blood becomes like cold syrup although it s awesome for joint s.
I just let me e2 rise and revil in the well oiled joint s and try not to cry at sad movies.

 

[Primoballin]

If you mess with nandrolone while on TRT, you better watch your hematocrit levels!!!

EQ will be worse yet for raising hemotocrit, and again genetics play a huge part. Some have few problems others like mentioned give blood even on trt doses yet still need to come off completely 1 or 2 times/year

 

[oldmusclemike]

Welcome , you came to the right place for your Q n A's...

 

[Primoballin]

Doc admin trt? Or self? Makes a big difference. It takes deca 6 weeks or better to clear in case your doc wants blood work done. If you know dates of said blood tests then fine -deca away. Otherwise, better to stick with short ester AAS for blasts between doc blood work to have ample time for that shit to clear your system. Otherwise you take a chance, some docs are pretty wise about that shit and will boot you.
Npp for nandrolone and test prop example of short ester AAS

 

[Mark1972]

I am in decent shape (I guess that is all relative though). I am 6' 2" and usually hover at 230. I will try and upload a pic or 2 in the next few days. I lift 4-5 days a week. Usually chest-Monday, back-Tuesday, legs-Wednesday (6 leg surgeries in the past) Friday-shoulders and bi's/Tori's on Saturday. I have recently (past 2 months) started doing cardio (elliptical usually because of bad knees) 5 days a week for 20-30 minutes (heart rate stays between 120-140).

 

[Mark1972]

Doc administered trt. He only pulls blood work every 6-9 months. I usually get it done whenever I want at a walk in lab and show him the results. It would be really easy for me to time it correctly.

 

[Mark1972]

I usually get blood work every 4 weeks when I do a blast. I just go to a local walk in lab and my doc/insurance company never sees the results. I donate blood every 56 days or so.

 

[Mark1972]

I am also on a pretty clean diet right now as well. I will try and upload a pic this week if I can.

 

[Mark1972]

Thank you

 

[Mark1972]

Sorry but I don't know if I fully understand what you mean. I would be interested in a 4 week oral steroid if it would increase my chances of a more successful cycle. If you don't think it would be beneficial then I would skip it. The reason i mentioned that i was on trt is because I was under the impression that the main reason people used the "kicker" up front was so they could improve their gains until the test reached a "therapeutic dose".

 

[Milton]

4 week oral only cycle? your a man.

 

[Roush]

Sorry but I don't know if I fully understand what you mean. I would be interested in a 4 week oral steroid if it would increase my chances of a more successful cycle. If you don't think it would be beneficial then I would skip it. The reason i mentioned that i was on trt is because I was under the impression that the main reason people used the "kicker" up front was so they could improve their gains until the test reached a "therapeutic dose".

if your on TRT , then there is absolutely nothing wrong with a 4 week blast of an oral only cycle. Personally I'd go a bit longer. Blast 50mg of Var for 6 weeks, should not be a problem at all while on TRT (your cholesterol profile on blood work will be negatively effected prob is all).
Blast Dbol for 6 weeks, should be fine but you HAVE TO up your AI and stay on top of estrogen control

 

[Mark1972]

Thank you

 

[Milton]

edited your thread title to say trt not try--- please keep us posted.

 

[Mark1972]

No not a 4 week oral only. Test c 500mg per week (weeks 1-12), npp 400mg per week (weeks 3-12), tbol 50mg per day (weeks 1-4), and exemestane 12.5mg eod/ed/or less (depending on symptoms and blood work) (weeks 1-12). I will pull bloodwork the day before I start, every 4 weeks while on cycle and 4 weeks after the cycle. I am a huge proponent of frequent bloodwork. The test c and npp will be taken eod together. Roughly 140mg test c eod and roughly 120mg npp eod. I chose npp, tbol and exemestane because they seem to have less side effects than their counterparts (deca, dbol and anastrazole). I know there are still plenty of possible side effects but they seem safer to me.

 

[Milton]

No not a 4 week oral only. Test c 500mg per week (weeks 1-12), npp 400mg per week (weeks 3-12), tbol 50mg per day (weeks 1-4), and exemestane 12.5mg eod/ed/or less (depending on symptoms and blood work) (weeks 1-12). I will pull bloodwork the day before I start, every 4 weeks while on cycle and 4 weeks after the cycle. I am a huge proponent of frequent bloodwork. The test c and npp will be taken eod together. Roughly 140mg test c eod and roughly 120mg npp eod. I chose npp, tbol and exemestane because they seem to have less side effects than their counterparts (deca, dbol and anastrazole). I know there are still plenty of possible side effects but they seem safer to me.

my mistake, misread the thread.