5 weeks on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) and still NOTHING....at all

[kilsong]

5 weeks on TRT and still NOTHING....at all

Going into 5 weeks of this and still nothing?
Started out like this:
Testosterone , Serum---264 ng/dl
Estradoil---21.0 pg/ml
Prostate -Specific Ag--0.5
Hemoglobin---14.6 g/dl

New labs show this:
Estradoil--52.7
Test--682

They started me on Anastrazole---so far a week of that.
Nothing.
Nothing at all.
I think I need more Test---but what do I know?

Any ideas?
I know when they see the next labs---the testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) clinic I go to is going to say to give it time.
I understand that...but..come on...I should feel SOMETHING now.

How do I go about getting more T from the doc?

 

[Megatron28]

Going into 5 weeks of this and still nothing?
Started out like this:
Testosterone , Serum---264 ng/dl
Estradoil---21.0 pg/ml
Prostate -Specific Ag--0.5
Hemoglobin---14.6 g/dl

New labs show this:
Estradoil--52.7
Test--682

They started me on Anastrazole---so far a week of that.
Nothing.
Nothing at all.
I think I need more Test---but what do I know?

Any ideas?
I know when they see the next labs---the testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) clinic I go to is going to say to give it time.
I understand that...but..come on...I should feel SOMETHING now.

How do I go about getting more T from the doc?

Is 682 your trough or peak? If trough, that is a decent number -- certainly your normal levels are restored. It can sometimes takr guys up to 8 weeks to feel the effects.

I am guessing you don't feel it yet because of the elevated estradiol. That can undo all your benefits. Give the Aromatase inhibitor (AI) another week to do its job.

If that doesn't work, you may be one of the unfortunate guys that doesn't respond to normal testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) doses/protocols. You are a long way from being at this point still, but sometimes guys need to run a "blast" of test to "wake up" their T receptors. Keep us updated on how you are doing.

Have you noticed even minor improvements in any areas yet? Energy? Libido? Strength? Not falling asleep after dinner? Less grumpy? Etc.

 

[kilsong]

Maybe...just maybe I feel an increase in the gym.
I'm seriously thinking about buying some Test online--and upping it myself.
At least this way--when I apply for a city job in a few weeks-I can have a script from a doc.

 

[Megatron28]

Maybe...just maybe I feel an increase in the gym.
I'm seriously thinking about buying some Test online--and upping it myself.
At least this way--when I apply for a city job in a few weeks-I can have a script from a doc.

Give it time. It has only been five weeks. It isn't like flipping a switch.

 

[toco]

Whats your protocol mate. Did I miss something or what? How much test are you on?

 

[kilsong]

Whats your protocol mate. Did I miss something or what? How much test are you on?

For the first four weeks I was on 150per week. Last week they made it 160 per week.

 

[newtohrt]

Shbg?

Going into 5 weeks of this and still nothing?
Started out like this:
Testosterone , Serum---264 ng/dl
Estradoil---21.0 pg/ml
Prostate -Specific Ag--0.5
Hemoglobin---14.6 g/dl

New labs show this:
Estradoil--52.7
Test--682

They started me on Anastrazole---so far a week of that.
Nothing.
Nothing at all.
I think I need more Test---but what do I know?

Any ideas?
I know when they see the next labs---the testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) clinic I go to is going to say to give it time.
I understand that...but..come on...I should feel SOMETHING now.

How do I go about getting more T from the doc?

I feel you, man...I have never felt anything from testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) either, except for a very slight bump in overall energy. My SHBG is the low end of normal - Do you know what yours is by chance? Guys with low SHBG generally have a rough time with testosterone replacement therapy (TRT).

Everyone is different, but I have run up to 400mgs of test a week for 10 weeks straight and it had no effect whatsoever. A lot of guys, perhaps even most guys have a very positive, noticeable effect from Testosterone so naturally it is hard for them to imagine that it doesn't work the same for everyone. By way of an example, a shot of Penicillin would cure me of anything (anything that would respond to Penicillin) so its hard for me to imagine that a single small injection would potentially be fatal to my wife. She is dangerously allergic.

 

[halfwit]

For the first four weeks I was on 150per week. Last week they made it 160 per week.

A 10mg increase? I think that clinic is milking you my friend. It does take time for you to start feeling the benefits as Megatron mentioned and your E2 could be making you feel lousy as well. My own personal philosophy on this is that if I have to inject for the rest of my life, you can bet your ass I'm going to be as close to the top end of the range as possible. Granted, there may not be much of a difference between 800ng/dL and 1100ng/dL, but it gives me a psychological boost at the very least haha. I would give it another week at this dose and then press for a higher dose, especially if that was a peak value.

Don't forget, as your testosterone increases so will your estradiol. Upping your Aromatase inhibitor (AI) may be required (as it is now).

I feel you, man...I have never felt anything from testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) either, except for a very slight bump in overall energy. My SHBG is the low end of normal - Do you know what yours is by chance? Guys with low SHBG generally have a rough time with testosterone replacement therapy (TRT).

Everyone is different, but I have run up to 400mgs of test a week for 10 weeks straight and it had no effect whatsoever. A lot of guys, perhaps even most guys have a very positive, noticeable effect from Testosterone so naturally it is hard for them to imagine that it doesn't work the same for everyone. By way of an example, a shot of Penicillin would cure me of anything (anything that would respond to Penicillin) so its hard for me to imagine that a single small injection would potentially be fatal to my wife. She is dangerously allergic.

Hey! Have you tried moving to supraphysiological levels yet to see if that does anything for you? I hate mentioning it in this forum, but it IS a valid technique used by some doctors that are more progressive.

 

[kilsong]

What do i say to them to get a bigger boost? I dont want them to think im trying to sorta do a cycle

 

[Megatron28]

Tell them you want to be at the top of the nornal range.

So was the TT number a peak or trough? We have asked this about three times now.

 

[kilsong]

So was the TT number a peak or trough? We have asked this about three times now.

I'm sorry about that. I really don't know the answer to this question because I don't know the difference.

 

[halfwit]

I'm sorry about that. I really don't know the answer to this question because I don't know the difference.

Peak = right after your injection (well, technically 48 hours after), Trough = right before your next injection.

 

[newtohrt]

Hey! Have you tried moving to supraphysiological levels yet to see if that does anything for you? I hate mentioning it in this forum, but it IS a valid technique used by some doctors that are more progressive.[/QUOTE]

As a test have run up to 400mg a week for 10 weeks straight and it had no effect whatsoever, but that's probably not a "real" cycle dose, either.

 

[kilsong]

Peak = right after your injection (well, technically 48 hours after), Trough = right before your next injection.

Thanks for that. I dunno which one I am. The first test results I got after no Test ever in life. The second test I took 7 days after my 4th injection if that makes sense.

Hey! Have you tried moving to supraphysiological levels yet to see if that does anything for you?

No I haven't but I sure would be willing to try it after all else fails. After reading more about this it appears even though I dont think so--I may be jumping the gun expecting better results so quickly. Clearly it's gonna take longer than expected.

 

[halfwit]

As a test have run up to 400mg a week for 10 weeks straight and it had no effect whatsoever, but that's probably not a "real" cycle dose, either.

Actually that's pretty close. Was it a steady 400mg, or did you titrate up the dose over time? I found what worked for me was a little higher, but it was a steady dose over 12 weeks.

Thanks for that. I dunno which one I am. The first test results I got after no Test ever in life. The second test I took 7 days after my 4th injection if that makes sense.

First would be dependent on time of day as that would be natural test levels which change throughout the day. The second would be a trough for sure if you pin every 7 days assuming this was done before the 5th injection.

 

[Megatron28]

682 for a trough is not a bad number especially when you used to be in the 200's. I would think you would be feeling some positive effects from that. You peak is probably somewhere between 800 and 1200 if I had to guess.

 

[JOWS7]

Ever had DHT tested?

 

[prudens]

Maybe your injections are placebos... I start feeling it after 2 weeks.

 

[Soybean70]

Maybe your injections are placebos... I start feeling it after 2 weeks.

Your estradiol is too high.
AI should help your symptoms

 

[71Avido]

Maybe your injections are placebos... I start feeling it after 2 weeks.

His test levels increased 158%, placebo wouldn't do that.