6 months since PCT balls still shrunk! Please help.

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Cleverfella

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Hey,

I did a 12 week cycle of Dbol, sustanon and EQ bold.

Week 1-6 Dbol
Week 1-12 sustanon and we
Week 14-17 nolvadex and chlomid


I finished my post cycle about 6 months and I still haven't had my balls return to their normal size. I also cannot get as hard as I use to prior to the cycle. I was told by my dealer that's all I had to do. I looked into it prior to starting my cycle and thought I had it all covered. I need your guys help right now. Someone please tell me what to do to get me back to normal. Thanks!
 
What where the dosages of your pct? please state your dosages for your cycle that you did. did you do blood works at any point during your cycle and pct?
 
If I were you I would get blood work done and see where your levels are. If you have low testosterone I would use clomid and nolva for about 4 to 6 weeks. Then wait 2 to 3 months get your blood work checked again and if its still low go see a specialist and they can try to help you more.
 
Thanks for the reply!

Pct
Week 1: 100mg Clomid / 20mg Nolva ED
Week 2: 50mg Clomid / 20mg Nolva ED
Week 3: 50mg Clomid / 20mg Nolva ED

Cycle
50mg dbol/day
750mg sustanon/week
750mg EQ/week
 
Cleverfella said:
Thanks for the reply!

Pct
Week 1: 100mg Clomid / 20mg Nolva ED
Week 2: 50mg Clomid / 20mg Nolva ED
Week 3: 50mg Clomid / 20mg Nolva ED

Cycle
50mg dbol/day
750mg sustanon/week
750mg EQ/week
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So you were running 750 mg EQ /w and took only one week off between last pin and starting PCT. Your blood levels would not have bled down enough to allow a successful PCT by the start, and I'd bet that even by the end of your PCT you were still supraphysiological on boldenone and maybe test too.

In other words your HPTA wouldn't have gotten any signal to restart, you ran through the PCT in that state, then on the other side you are back where you started. Essentially a cycle with no PCT.

You could think about an HPTA restart protocol, best to get that blood testing first then think about what to do.
 
No, I started 2 weeks after my last pin. Sorry for the confusion. I’ll definitely look into it after my blood work is complete. Thanks man!
 
Ok, let me show you what I'm talking about. Forget about the test, let's just look at boldenone undecylenate, which has a half life of 14 days.

This first curve shows your blood levels during your 12 week EQ cycle. Notice how the levels continue to rise the whole time, had you gone longer they wouldn't have reached max until about week 13 or 14.

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Now if I shift the curve left so you can see what happens when you stop injecting it looks like this:

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This is showing last injections in week #6. To bleed down to where your HPTA will not sense you having too much sex hormone takes until week #12-1/2, or so. And that would be equivalent to 70 mg natural test production per week. If at the start of your cycle your body naturally had less test then that, you would have to get even lower before your HPTA would sense that it needs to turn back on. Did you do bloodwork before you started to see your baseline test level? Would be good to know as it effects this.

So, waiting 2 weeks after last pin, then PCT'ing for 3 weeks (total 5), when you really needed to wait 6 or 7 weeks to start means you didn't do a PCT at all - at least not one that has any chance of succeeding.

EQ has a really long half life, and you took a really large dose, so both those mean an extra long time after last pin to where you should start a PCT. In this case I'd probably wait 6 weeks, then start a 6 week PCT with both clomid and nolva, and with higher doses of clomid the first two weeks. Something like 150/100/50/50/50/50 clomid and 40 nolva the whole way.
 
Wow. I appreciate all this information bro. I***8217;m just out in the states for work until the 12th. I should be getting my results in by the 17th. I***8217;ll post them up here. But everything you said was bang on. It***8217;s been over 8 months since I finished my pct. would you say it***8217;s safe to start as soon as im back home on the 12th. I***8217;ll take your word for it brother. So just to clarify things, I***8217;m doing a 6 week pct with those dosages you posted. Thanks again
 
For an HPTA restart PCT now, when you don't have high levels of exogenous hormones in your body, you would not need the couple weeks up front with higher dose clomid. You could run 50 mg/day clomid the entire 6 weeks.

You might also want to get two 5,000 IU bottles of HCG and run 1,000 IU per day for 10 days prior to starting the clomid & nolva. That should take care of the ball shrinkage and set you up for getting the boys restarted. If you do those 10 days and don't see anything on ball size it might be a bad sign that you require a longer run with HCG.

And I've heard from others that igf-lr3 can also be beneficial. That's one I don't know anything about doses or duration, so you'll have to look it up.

You will also want to make sure you have plenty of vitamin D during this time and zinc. I'd suggest you take a multi-vitamin (if you don't already) and get some vitamin D3, vitamin K2, and ZMA to take before & throughout your PCT.

Good luck to you.
 
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