8 week cycle advice

[jeffreyt]

Hi guys.

First post and a newbie to steroids although i have done plenty research previously, just never bitten the bullet and done a cycle.

Stats wise;

Age: 24
Height/weight: 6ft 4", 109kg

Lifts;
Deadlift 270kg/595lbs
Bench 130kg/287lbs
Squat 205kg/451lbs

Diet: (maintenance/moderate bulking)

P: 310g C: 300g F: 60g (circa 3000cals)


Now, the issue is that i work at sea, so am only home for about 3 months at any one time.

I'm planning on doing my first cycle in January, running for 8 weeks, then 3/4 weeks post cycle therapy (pct) then back to sea at the end of march.


With this, i understand i'll want a short ester test. I plan on doing 500mg split into 2, 250mg jabs, monday and thursday.

What would be the best one? Test enanthate? Test Propionate?

Or would i be better doing an oral cycle? (dbol at 30-50mg a day?)

I've no concerns about my training or diet, i'm very happy with my commitment and motivation, just a case of choosing the right steroid and controlling the side effects.

I'm reluctant to do orals due to the toxicity issues on the liver etc... however injecting is a bit scary.

Also, would it be beneficial doing a dbol 'kickstart' for the first 4weeks? or should i not bother with more than one substance for my first cycle?


ANY advice/pointers are appreciated. As i say i only know what i know from reading the web but personal views from you guys who have been in similar positions are much more valuable.


Thanks again, sorry for long read.

 

[Zeek]

It's going to be tough to maintain gains out at sea unless you are on a carrier with a full gym on board.

I would advise you to hold off on the steroids until a better time in your life where you can reap the rewards and keep them!

If you plan to do it anyway and go for 8 weeks the only testosterones to even consider are propionate, TNE and or suspension IMO. Inject propionate every other day if you chose to go with that one, the others can be a bit tricky for a first run. Save the D-bol for the next run

Make sure you have your post cycle therapy (pct) in check, it would suck bad to be out at sea and not fully recovered and feeling like crap.

 

[jeffreyt]

It's going to be tough to maintain gains out at sea unless you are on a carrier with a full gym on board.

I would advise you to hold off on the steroids until a better time in your life where you can reap the rewards and keep them!

If you plan to do it anyway and go for 8 weeks the only testosterones to even consider are propionate, TNE and or suspension IMO. Inject propionate every other day if you chose to go with that one, the others can be a bit tricky for a first run. Save the D-bol for the next run

Make sure you have your post cycle therapy (pct) in check, it would suck bad to be out at sea and not fully recovered and feeling like crap.

Thanks for quick response.

With regards to life at sea. The vessel i work on has a decent gym, over 200kg in plates, squat rack and olympic bar and up to 30kg dumbells so where it isn't amazing, it's definately enough to get a good workout with. Food wise, i could eat 10000 good calories a day if i wanted/could manage it, so no issues there. I agree it's not perfect but unfortunately for now and forseeable future, this is the way it is.

What sort of dosing per injection would be best if i were to use prop?

 

[Zeek]

Thanks for quick response.

With regards to life at sea. The vessel i work on has a decent gym, over 200kg in plates, squat rack and olympic bar and up to 30kg dumbells so where it isn't amazing, it's definately enough to get a good workout with. Food wise, i could eat 10000 good calories a day if i wanted/could manage it, so no issues there. I agree it's not perfect but unfortunately for now and forseeable future, this is the way it is.

What sort of dosing per injection would be best if i were to use prop?

haha with a boat like that you are GTG. I don't know why but I was picturing something like a 70 foot crab boat

assuming you go with 500mg per week prop.

Divide it into 3 shots M-W-F to keep things simple. 2 shots at 175mg and 1 of those 3 shots at 150mg.

Do you see the sticky thread for post cycle therapy (pct)? that will be the most important part of your cycle.

 

[jeffreyt]

haha with a boat like that you are GTG. I don't know why but I was picturing something like a 70 foot crab boat

assuming you go with 500mg per week prop.

Divide it into 3 shots M-W-F to keep things simple. 2 shots at 175mg and 1 of those 3 shots at 150mg.

Do you see the sticky thread for post cycle therapy (pct)? that will be the most important part of your cycle.

Ha no, not a fishing boat! I wont say the company i work for but it is one of the biggest shipping companies in the world so facilities for officers are pretty good on the most part!

Yeah i've read the post cycle therapy (pct) thread and took it on board so will make sure it's planned out properly.

My main question, aside from which substance to use was about the duration of cycle, whether 8 weeks would be pointless/yeild no results or whatever.

If people in the know think i can gain well from an 8 week cycle of prop at 500mg a week then i think i'm happy to go with it!

 

[jeffreyt]

Bump for more opinions?

 

[frazier512]

Bump for more opinions?

8 weeks will be enough with prop. it is such a short ester. i would run longer, but in your time constraint it will be okay. make sure u run a full post cycle therapy (pct). have u picked your post cycle therapy (pct) yet? if so what is it?