well folks i did it. all that hard work for 18 weeks paid off. i went to chicago and blew every competitor away scoring a perfect 5. gilly 6993 will post some pics because he has the digi. stats were 5'4" weigh-in at 188 and carbed up to 191 vascular and absolutely shredded. lost the overall by 2 points to the middleweight but he is 37 years old with just deeper seperations so i can't be upset by being beat by a guy that has 10 more years of trainig and drugs under his belt. now i will relax and grow and take the critique of working on my central back and will bring a tottaly complete package to either the 2004 usa's or nationals.