A different back program

John"Zane"Ching

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yo guys! how are you?

I want to know an effective back program.
Maybe I'm doin too much again.

Here's my back programs:
Lat Machine Pulldown
Seated Pulley Rowing
Bent Rowing(standing on a bench)
Stiif-Leg Deadlift(standing on a bench)
Hyperextensions
One-Arm Bent Rowing

I know it's much but that did helped my back..

Any idea?

Thank You and God Bless
 
here's my back routine. low volume high intensity.

start with deads or rack pulls

high rows on hammer strength or reverse narrow grip pull downs

bent over rows BB or seated cable rows

1 heavy work set of 4-10 reps depending on what rep range works best for you.

this works great for me with the empasis on the deads. no better way to build a phat foundation than deads.
 
thanks for the advice, pullinbig.

why is it difficult to do wide-grip pullups?
I've been really wondering about that.
Many of my huge muscular friend was even having a hard time with it..
max pullups? 5
really..

Train hard and stay healthy
 
the wider you spread you arms less muscle grpoups are envolved plus you loose some leverage. i weigh 300+ and can do 10 wide grip pull ups last time i tried. however i am not a fan of wide grip over head work as i have run into injuries with these movements. but thats me and many folks have great success with these movements.
 
You stand on a bench to do bent over rows??? I bent over row with mid 300s, I dont see myself hopping up on a bench with that kind of weight and not worrying about falling over.
 
yeah really i normally go 405 to 455 on bent over rows depending on where in the back routine i put them and how heavy i went on deads. why do them on a bench? whats the point? same with stiff legs. if you got a good arch and not rounding off doin SLDL on the floor is plenty.
 
Mudge said:
You stand on a bench to do bent over rows??? I bent over row with mid 300s, I dont see myself hopping up on a bench with that kind of weight and not worrying about falling over.
I had the same thought lol
 
Well, I myself, never got the stretch and pump I need when doin bend-rows and deads on the floor.

Gravity. I could balance myself on top of the bench and just lower it down. Been doin that a long time already.

Well, we have our different ways of working out. :)

But isn't wide-grip presses very very effective for your lats? Yeah, I have a sucky lats. :(

Train hard and stay healthy
 
what do you mean, golden?

Nah, I don't want to compete with my advisor. :)

If you guys would recall or seeing one of arnold's pic. He was doin a heavy sets of bent rowing on top of bench. :)
 
John"Zane"Ching said:
what do you mean, golden?

Nah, I don't want to compete with my advisor. :)

If you guys would recall or seeing one of arnold's pic. He was doin a heavy sets of bent rowing on top of bench. :)


I was kidding! LOL.

I still want to know what rack pulls are.
 
:) :) :)

I'm training my lats very hard..
yeah, I don't like wide-grip pull-ups
but someone has to do it. :)
No pain no gain!
umm, how do you flex your lats?
Front lat spreads?

Thank you and God Bless
 
this might help with the rack pulls explanation (taken from superior muscle, dogcrapp's home):

"Rack chins: Find the widest smythe machine you can (or barbell in a
squat rack) and put a bench in front of it- put the bar about shoulder height- use wrist straps and put your grip as wide as comfortably possible-put your heels up on the bench but cross your legs to take them out of the movement- your legs should almost be straight but not quite- now do chins explosively up and 8 seconds down until the full stretch- any rep that your chin doesn?t either go over the bar or hit the bar doesn?t count! Do one warm-up set and then have someone put a fixed plate barbell (like used for barbell curls) in your lap. On every rest pause the spotter grabs the barbell off the chinners lap and the chinner stands up and counts his 15 deep breaths (and he stays strapped up to the bar). Then the chinner gets back into position after 15 deep breaths and the spotter puts the barbell back on the chinners lap. I want one warm-up straight set with no added weight done for 10-12 reps and then one all out rest pause set for 15 to 20 reps with added weight (use a 30lb barbell this first time out), then 10-30 short range static reps at the end. These are going to be excruciating and tomorrow your lats are going to be killing you. This exercise is my lat width pronto exercise.
You can rig this up where you don?t need a spotter. I?ve done this before by putting my weight belt really loose around me and putting a 35lb plate down the back of it with a short chain, or you can rig up some benches where you can get that barbell off your lap but it?s much easier if you can get someone to help you for the one working rest pause set. You need to really push the stretch down the bottom and then try to explode up to the bar on every rep."

greetz
 
Rack pulls to me would be rack deads, where you remove the legs from the deadlift by setting the pins at about knee height. This will enable you to target the back a bit better, and use more weight as well.
 
Mudge said:
Rack pulls to me would be rack deads, where you remove the legs from the deadlift by setting the pins at about knee height. This will enable you to target the back a bit better, and use more weight as well.

Thanks man. But is it a bit like a row too? Im still kinda lost.
 
no, basically it's a deadlift motion, where you just start a few inches higher than normaly when doing them of the floor.

Takes away some stress of your hams and makes it therefore easier to lift more weight.

hope that helped!

greetz
 
Golden_Muscle said:
What are rack pulls?

Also, john zane, I stand on a bench when I max out of squats. Beat that!

set the bar up in a power rack just below the knees. then pull from there. its a partial dead. you can go much heavier than convential deads and it takes the quads out of the movement and targets hams and back.
 
John"Zane"Ching said:
Well, I myself, never got the stretch and pump I need when doin bend-rows and deads on the floor.

Gravity. I could balance myself on top of the bench and just lower it down. Been doin that a long time already.

Well, we have our different ways of working out. :)

But isn't wide-grip presses very very effective for your lats? Yeah, I have a sucky lats. :(

Train hard and stay healthy

not being disrespectful but if you gotta get on a bench to get a stretch doin bent over rows you doin something way wrong. if you came in my gym doin stiff legs and bent over rows on a bench you would get laughed at. it is unnecessarry and you prolly got bad form. send me a video clip of you doin the movements and let me look at them and we'll get ya straitened out so you can do them off the floor. next time i go do posterior work ill post the clips on the traing video section. check out the other ones already posted there in the 16th frame i believe.
 
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