about to treat myself to some pharma GH. got some questions for GH users...

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in a few days i'll be able to get my hands on some pharma grade HGH. either pfizer genos or norditropin. i plan on running it at least until the end of the summer.

so i got two questions...

what is a good dose for fat loss?

and what is a good dose for fat maintenance/loss during a bulk? i'm looking to do a serious bulk once i reach 9-10% BF. i've never been able to eat 3500-4000 cals a day with 3-400g carbs a day because then i'd just get SUPER fat really quick.

so basically my main goal for GH use is to eat and gain like an animal while either maintaining bodyfat, or gaining very little. thanks in advance.
 
I like 4-5iu ed (5on 2 off) IMO. it will help mass too. if just looking for mild fatloss and conditioning then 3-4iu prob would be ok also.

also try bulking with high protein high-med fat and med carbs. carbs dont need to be too high. maybe your body will do better like so. add olive oil to everything ( i even add a couple shots into my protein drink) its high cals and easy to get in with some effort.
 
I like 4-5iu ed (5on 2 off) IMO. it will help mass too. if just looking for mild fatloss and conditioning then 3-4iu prob would be ok also.

also try bulking with high protein high-med fat and med carbs. carbs dont need to be too high. maybe your body will do better like so. add olive oil to everything ( i even add a couple shots into my protein drink) its high cals and easy to get in with some effort.

i use 5 iu ed but with pharma grade you could go a bit lower.im using kefei and ive been on them for over a year.

thanks. my buddy can get nordi's right now but i'm cutting right at the moment. but ultimately, my main objective of the growth will be to go on a huge bulk while maintaining bodyfat or at very least going up a little bit. i'm talking 4000 cals a day. if i ate that way now with no growth, i'd go from 13% to 17% in one month time. i simply cannot bulk like that
 
Using PSL Gray Tops, I've been able to see significant fat loss and a drastic increase in muscle fullness and density on just 5iu. With pharma you can probably cut that in half.
 
Using PSL Gray Tops, I've been able to see significant fat loss and a drastic increase in muscle fullness and density on just 5iu. With pharma you can probably cut that in half.

Fat is starting to fall off my body too with 3IUs a day of Eurotropin...and a bunch of cardio.
i WISH i was in the states so i could mailorder non-pharma HGH, but last time i tried i threw 300 bucks down the drain, the stuff sat in customs for two months (customs here is really tough as you could imagine), and when it finally got there they destroyed them in front of my face. they said they know exactly what this is and dont even try to bullshit them or argue with them because they "should be calling the police right now". i mean i totally understand them. a bunch of little vials with white powder inside? lol

the buddy whos getting me the nordis says the non-pharma GH here in israel is either completely fake, legit peptides, or weak chinese GH. at least online theres legit reviews with bloods for all the products. he said he doesnt give a fuck getting me the non-pharma shit but says since i'd have to take more of it (compared to pharma) it'll cost me nearly the same as pharma grade, so its just worth it to add that little extra cash for the real deal.
 
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