I though tren hit people hard? I would say my experience with it backs that up fully, I added it to some test and holee sh!t my balls not only got smaller but small enough that they got scary soft (nasty I know).
HCG is a religion for me now, I've been on a regimen for around 10 days and I'm already coming back in a big way and keeping almost all of my strength. (antiE and HCG only, no test right now I've been off ~4 weeks).