Advice for a steroid cycle for mass without fat gain

[googleboy]

Hello.

I am a beginner and never used any stero excepting some test enanthate half a year ago. Test alone was not ok for me because of water retention and belly fat.

I am actually on peptides Ipamorelin and Mod GRF 1-29 that are working pretty well especially for skin and joints.

I want to start an AAS to gain mass with no fat.

I heard I could mix some things but I don't know what.

I prefer no oral steroids but injections only to avoid liver issues.

Can you please give me some advice or how to proceed? I am 30 yo.

Thanks.

 

[DreDay187]

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[bigkit34]

Bison steak and brown rice

 

[3J]

its not your cycle that defines the way you grow.. its your diet

 

[googleboy]

There was no need for such advert.

I eat healthy, no sugars and no excess fats but my question was about a different thing, not about nutrition because I already know... in order to grow I need to eat clean.

 

[TheWalkingDead]

Personally I grow tired of reading threads like this and hearing about skinny little guys afraid to lose their abs. The truth is that if you want to get big, you will have to gain some fat. I tried helping out a friend who wanted to get as big and strong as possible, but ate like a canary, and was mortified of any fat gain. The end result is that he started at 5'11" 165 pounds, and he remains there.

 

[DreDay187]

There was no need for such advert.

I eat healthy, no sugars and no excess fats but my question was about a different thing, not about nutrition because I already know... in order to grow I need to eat clean.

Ummm....eating healthy has nothing to do with not eating sugars or not eating excess fat, it has to do with eating within your daily discretionary caloric allowance while meeting macro and micro nutrient needs. If you knew anything about nutrition you'd realize gaining mass without fat is an impossibility. The first law of thermodynamics and conservation of mass are not things you can bypass by using steroids. If you knew anything about steroids you'd know testosterone doesn't create site specific fat aka belly fat. It doesn't even create fat, it's yours I of nutritional knowledge or lack of adherence to a proper diet suited to your goals that got you the belly fat. You'd also know using an Aromatase inhibitor (AI), watching your sodium intake, watching your carb intake, and staying hydrated with plenty of fluids would minimize water retention but bc you're an all knowing expert on matters this is not new to you I'm guessing. And finally eating clean is a myth, what's clean to you is not clean to me or the next person. Clean is a subjective term not objective when it comes to nutrition.

 

[frank.tb]

Ummm....eating healthy has nothing to do with not eating sugars or not eating excess fat, it has to do with eating within your daily discretionary caloric allowance while meeting macro and micro nutrient needs. If you knew anything about nutrition you'd realize gaining mass without fat is an impossibility. The first law of thermodynamics and conservation of mass are not things you can bypass by using steroids. If you knew anything about steroids you'd know testosterone doesn't create site specific fat aka belly fat. It doesn't even create fat, it's yours I of nutritional knowledge or lack of adherence to a proper diet suited to your goals that got you the belly fat. You'd also know using an Aromatase inhibitor (AI), watching your sodium intake, watching your carb intake, and staying hydrated with plenty of fluids would minimize water retention but bc you're an all knowing expert on matters this is not new to you I'm guessing. And finally eating clean is a myth, what's clean to you is not clean to me or the next person. Clean is a subjective term not objective when it comes to nutrition.

^^^preach it!^^^
So googleboy I would listen to these guys...there is also no cycle that you won't have TEST in...it's essential!
Also you forgot to mention stats...
Like age, weight, height, bf%?
They are not consciously going to give someone advice about cycles that they feel isn't ready...