Advice needed: do I (still) need to cycle?

[Jake_Barnes]

Hi all,

I have a particular medical situation and I'm looking for some advice to get the most out of it. I hope some of the more experienced amongst you will have some good ideas.

So about the medical part: I've recently lost both testicles due to testicular cancer and am now dependent on HRT for preservation of, well, male characteristics. I've been taking transcutaneous testosterone (2% gel), 80 mg/day for about six months now and I'm not too unhappy with it. My plasma T levels are a steady 30nM or 850ng/dL which seems pretty ok.
I've been working out a lot during the past couple of months (initially as a coping mechanism), and have acquired a taste for it. At some the working out has become about gains, next to just fun (I figure most people here know what I'm talking about), and well, I want more ;-).

From what I've read I don't have much to lose by using AAS, so why not? My current goals are first to get rid of some body fat, so what would you recommend as a supplementation to the Test?
I was thinking of starting a Trenbolone Acetate cycle, with 50 mg EOD to start.

So to my questions:

Do I still even need to cycle? I mean, there isn't much natural androgen production to recover anymore. Or do you think there will be down-regulation of ARs along the way if I keep it up indefinitely? I imagine that my Hypothalamus/Pituitary is already out of whack with the artificial Test.

What is you opinion on the risks? I hope to keep the lipid profile somewhat in check with good nutrition. I've chosen Tren in particular to minimize effects on the prostate (I've had enough of cancer for a while). Anything else?

I'm curious about the sexual side-effects. Obviously sexy-time has been less than awesome sans balls, so I wonder what I should to minimize further problems. I've heard good things about proviron/mesterolone in that respect. Should I add it (50mgs) on date night? Or does it only work when taken continuously?

Hope you guys have some tips,

- J

 

[Megatron28]

A lot of guys here are on TRT, including me. So while I have my balls, they are not making any testosterone for me. What you are looking to do is referred to as running a blast. You absolutely can do this. I would encourage you to do more homework though. Start by reading the sticky threads.

You first cycle should be simple. Limit the variables to learn how your body responds to a compound. Your first blast should be just Testosterone. You will want to inject between 500-750mg weekly. Split the injections into two per week if you use test E or C.

You also need to learn about how to inhibit the testosterone from aromatizing into estradiol during your blast. This is done by using an AI such as Arimidex or Aromasin.

You won't have to worry about PCT since you will just return to TRT.

Anyhow, do some more reading and keep your first cycle simple. After you have gotten through your homework assignment come back and ask more questions in this thread.

 

[3J]

Megatron has given you everything you need to know... What I will add is that 8o percent of your goal will be in the kitchen... Make sure your diet is set up correctly.. Go to my free diet advice thread and post up or email me if interested in becoming a client 3jdiet@gmail.com

 

[Jake_Barnes]

Alright, thanks megatron for clearing up the terminology. I'll start with just testosterone and an aromatase inhibitor, see how that goes. Is there anything against using the transdermal preparation or mixed esthers (i.e. sustanon) at higher doses?
The reason I'm asking is that I can get those 'legally' from the pharmacy any time (same goes for AIs). The shorter esthers aren't registered in my country so I'll have to get them from some dodgy internet vendor.

And 3J, I'm well aware . I've read up quite a bit and am still losing bodyfat at 1% a month or so. If I plateau or get stuck, I'll contact you.

 

[Megatron28]

Alright, thanks megatron for clearing up the terminology. I'll start with just testosterone and an aromatase inhibitor, see how that goes. Is there anything against using the transdermal preparation or mixed esthers (i.e. sustanon) at higher doses?
The reason I'm asking is that I can get those 'legally' from the pharmacy any time (same goes for AIs). The shorter esthers aren't registered in my country so I'll have to get them from some dodgy internet vendor.

And 3J, I'm well aware . I've read up quite a bit and am still losing bodyfat at 1% a month or so. If I plateau or get stuck, I'll contact you.

Transdermal won't get your levels high enough. Sustanton is fine. It might make dialing in your estradiol a little tougher though. Sustanton makes it a little tougher to time PCT too, but you don't have to worry about that. If I could walk down to the local pharmacy and get pharma Sustanton I would use that vs. going to an UGL.

You may want to keep using your TRT dose of gel all three way through your cycle. Then you at least know right where you are at when you start. Dropping it and replacing it with Sustanton could put you on a bit of a roller coaster in the beginning. By running both you will just climb.

Do you have access to blood work to check your estradiol and make sure your AI dosage is eight?

 

[Teutonic]

transdermal s suck

Any ester will do only dosing amount s and frequency of injects will vary. Read up on the half lifes and makeup of single or multi-blend test compounds and you ll be straight. Test e or c are easiest to maintain blood plasma level s to avoid fluctuations vs short esters or do like to inject ? I m trt and whenever I break out of 1 cc a week to play body builder and do heavy cycle like trt x 2 or 2.5. and it involves short esters...e o d gets old week 2. lol