After PCT, E2 crashed... Now what?

[famcc]

Hey guys,

First of all, sorry that this shit situation is my first real post.

I ended a cycle in January, and followed it up with a standard PCT of Clomid and Nolva.

I ran arimidex throughout my cycle, and everything seemed to go well.

Now my problem is that I've had a low libido, and difficulty keeping my buddy interested. I've tried supplementing with tadalafil, but I'm still having a problem staying aroused. So I do what any of us would do, and I got some labs.

Here's the results:
LH: 12.8 (1.7-8.6)
FSH 15.2 (1.5-12.4)
Test 837 (348-1197)
Estradiol 7.4 (7.6-42.6)

The LH and FSH levels are pretty high, which is more than likely due to the AAS, and it's clearly not a sign of testicular shutdown since my test levels are toward the upper range of normal.

My Estradiol levels, though, seem low. They really should be in the double digits. This should explain the problems that I've been having.


Age 23
BW 185
BF 9-10%
5'8"

Cycle: Test E 500/wk for 10 weeks.
Adex throughout at .5-1mg/day throughout test doses.

PCT:
Clomid - 100/100/50/50
Nolva - 40/40/20/20

I opted not to use any HCG, which in hindsight, may be what's causing my issue.

After PCT, I was still having issues, so I ran a few OTC items (Unleashed, Post Cycle, D-Aspartic Acid).

Now it's not always a problem.. I'm able to be successful maybe 1/3 of the time, but those numbers are only good in baseball, not in the bedroom.

Any thoughts on these results? What's your take on them? Any idea on how to fix everything?

Thanks

 

[Megatron28]

What are you currently taking?

I would like to see you run blood work again just to confirm those numbers. They are unusual.

 

[famcc]

What are you currently taking?

I would like to see you run blood work again just to confirm those numbers. They are unusual.

Currently on a cut stack (which I'm ceasing until I balance my levels)
Yohimbe
Greet Tea Extract
Acetyl L Carnitine
Caffeine
D-Aspartic Acid

Then the usuals, fish oil, CLA, multivitamin, BCAA

 

[Megatron28]

If you can, run the labs again. Make sure you go first thing in the morning.

 

[famcc]

I'm going next week to get more bloods. In the mean time, does anyone else want to chime in?

 

[oldmusclemike]

Ya know you did what you did and best of luck. BUT for all who will listen this is one reason we tell people to wait until you are at least 25years old. I know you don't want to hear this shit.... but it is real and it sounds like as we agreed this doesn't sound quite SOP, on the norm because you followed the protocol right.
nough said.............Good luck

 

[3J]

What are you currently taking?

I would like to see you run blood work again just to confirm those numbers. They are unusual.

that's what i was thinking.. either he is taking something or we got something secondary going on

 

[3J]

Currently on a cut stack (which I'm ceasing until I balance my levels)
Yohimbe
Greet Tea Extract
Acetyl L Carnitine
Caffeine
D-Aspartic Acid

Then the usuals, fish oil, CLA, multivitamin, BCAA

i dont see anything that would cause a drop in estrogen like that..

 

[Megatron28]

I am thinking this might have just been done at a time when E2 was low and there was an LH/FSH pulse calling for more testosterone. Although natty test in the 800's which is really good. This makes this whole thing a little confusing.

 

[3J]

I am thinking this might have just been done at a time when E2 was low and there was an LH/FSH pulse calling for more testosterone. Although natty test in the 800's which is really good. This makes this whole thing a little confusing.

yup.... that's what doesn't add up... he might need further testing

 

[Alpin]

Too much Adex while on cycle. You can dose it Eod you know. 0.5 mg EOD-E3D would have been plenty. When I was young (25 y.o.) I never ran an AI at 750mg week of T.
Had some ups and downs though. Looking back I would start AI 2 weeks after getting on.
What time of day were these labs done?

 

[famcc]

Too much Adex while on cycle. You can dose it Eod you know. 0.5 mg EOD-E3D would have been plenty. When I was young (25 y.o.) I never ran an AI at 750mg week of T.
Had some ups and downs though. Looking back I would start AI 2 weeks after getting on.
What time of day were these labs done?

These labs were taken around 1:30PM, pre workout, not on an empty stomach.

 

[Megatron28]

These labs were taken around 1:30PM, pre workout, not on an empty stomach.

You should always check your hormone levels first thing in the morning.