Age 25, Very Low Test, need advice

CoolSH

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Hey all, if you wanna skip to the TL;DR check the bottom of the page.

most of my adult life if suffered from anxiety, it all started back when I was 15-16 and lost a good chunk of weight in highschool to impress a girl. Transformed my body by going from 270lbs to 170lbs in a year, lots of starvation and hours of cardio with no weightlifting involved. Ended up dating a girl and messing up my sleeping habits for at least 2 years while in highschool, and at this time I started P90X while still doing intense cardio sessions. I got too skinny; at 5'9" 155lbs I felt like a noodle. I was sleeping less than 4 hours every night, hardly drinking any water for fear of weight gain, and eating maybe less than 1000 cals a day (I cringe thinking about all this.)

After highschool I lost motivation, my girlfriend, and my body felt like a wreck. I should've been happy with my weight loss but I felt no energy. I got anxious, somewhat depressed, didn't leave my home for a year, and it took me a while to get myself back on track.

In the course of these events I had several check-ups at the doc and my test levels constantly floated around 340-350, but the doc never bothered mentioning it so I didn't think that was the issue.

Later on in life a close friend of mine gets me into lifting with Starting Strength and I start putting on a little muscle mass, but not much. I keep strength training for maybe 6 years while fixing up my eating, until I switch to bodybuilding. At this point I had some pretty depressing lifts

After 6 years of strength training I had:
Less than a two plate bench
Less than a 3 plate squat
Less than a 4 plate DL

I had very little muscle mass and generally felt disappointed with my body. Fatigue and brain fog were really really bad at this point, so I scheduled an appointment with a specialist in vitamin and mineral deficiencies who ran a few tests to see why I was so lethargic. Almost everything came back in range but my test levels were at 250ng/DL. He was the first doctor to ever point out how low my test was for a 22 year old man, so he put me on HCG for 2 months to try to fix me up, but it didn't help.

Fast forward to me right now at 25, I'm doing my first cycle and I've never felt as in control as I do now. I wasn't running large doses of pharmacy grade Test (400mg/wk of C) but I felt like it did a 180 on my perspective. I've become more aggressive, more socially dominant, funnier and happier than I've always been. The only depressing thought is going into PCT, losing my strength and muscle, and going back to a life of low test. I've never been clinically diagnosed with low T but I've shown all the signs for years now.

I've ran a few PH cycles in the past and I've lost all my gains every single time, but my low test finally explains why my progress on the gym is TRASH after 10 years of training compared to newbies who've been lifting for less than 3 years

I've ben considering TRT, and I just wanna know if TRT would even be the right choice under my circumstances. At 25 years old my test isn't getting any higher and I feel like I've exhausted all my resources for raising my test naturally (I've tried Clomid therapy, addressing nutrients, sleep, inflammation, stress, less exercise, more exercise, PLing, BBing, fasting, eating every 2 hrs, piracetam and brain drugs)

I'll run a few test after PCT to see where I stand, and I just want your suggestions what else I could do to naturally increase test. I've made my peace with never hoping off Test if it comes to that, I'll inject myself every day for life if it means I can feel like a normal man.

TL;DR. Chronically low T since I was 15 after huge weight loss trauma, fatigued and anxious for 10 years, now considering TRT at 25 after my first cycle of test to feel normal.

Thanks.
 
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Bump! Any advice from the old timers or young guys on TRT would be appreciated, I just wanna make the best of my energy cause I'm also in a rigorous physical therapy program and the low T wouldnt help my concentration:crying:
 
We need lab work results to tell you if TRT would be right for you at your age, but it sounds like from your history that it would be. Now we just need to see labs to confirm thats where the symptoms are coming from.

if you really need TRT there is no reason to do a cycle. If you just did doctor prescribed dosages you would see tremendous changes from that alone.
 
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^Agreed!!
It sounds like you already tried my first suggestion which would be Clomid therapy to see what your natural levels could be brought up to. What were your labs after the Clomid therapy? Specifically what were your LH in FSH after the Clomid therapy.

What are your current labs to include estradiol, test, total test, SHBG, LH, FSH?

TRT could be your answer. It sounds like it could be the right choice, if you have done a proper restart attempt, with Clomid and HCG. I would make sure you did proper Clomid therapy and confirm you are hypogonadal. If you are, you will be pinning the rest of your life.
 
We need lab work results to tell you if TRT would be right for you at your age, but it sounds like from your history that it would be. Now we just need to see labs to confirm thats where the symptoms are coming from.

if you really need TRT there is no reason to do a cycle. If you just did doctor prescribed dosages you would see tremendous changes from that alone.

I'd be ecstatic to get some TRT prescribed right now but I'm finishing up a cycle lol.... my panels would be skewed. Wouldn't I have to go through the PCT hassle and then check back with you guys for more accurate results? If it helps I'm finishing up my test cycle and waiting for the ester to clear.
 
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^Agreed!!
It sounds like you already tried my first suggestion which would be Clomid therapy to see what your natural levels could be brought up to. What were your labs after the Clomid therapy? Specifically what were your LH in FSH after the Clomid therapy.

What are your current labs to include estradiol, test, total test, SHBG, LH, FSH?

TRT could be your answer. It sounds like it could be the right choice, if you have done a proper restart attempt, with Clomid and HCG. I would make sure you did proper Clomid therapy and confirm you are hypogonadal. If you are, you will be pinning the rest of your life.

I have to retake some labs to see where I stand. Low test has been a common factor in all my past exams and last one checked out at 250. It wasn't through Labcorp so I don't have the info on hand, but being mid cycle right now I think I'd have to wait till the ester cleared and finish PCT in order to get an accurate assessment of my levels, right?
 
Yes, you need to get your labs done to confirm you are hypogonadal after PCT. This will let you and a doctor know where your natural levels are. Getting your labs done mid cycle can be benificial for health reasons, but you will be shut down and your LH and FSH will be tanked from the synthetic testosterone.
 
Not gonna lie......i got a little lost in your initial post. If your testosterone level is below 400 naturally (at your age) then get some help. You won't have to look far to find a doc that will help you if you look in the right circles.
If you want to see what you can do naturally than do a RESTART. Not hard to find some good plans there either.

If you want to know what it's like to be SUPER EFFING HUMAN.........then you need to thoroughly read the first cycle stickies.

Good luck and ask questions bro
 
I had levels in the 400 range and my TRT "gave me my life back" in a way. My test problems come with medications. If you have labs getting help isn't hard.

I'm about 5 lbs heavier than pre TRT with better diet and training. Highest body weight ever. This last 20 weeks has been life changing after about 5 years of low T and epilepsy.
 
I had levels in the 400 range and my TRT "gave me my life back" in a way. My test problems come with medications. If you have labs getting help isn't hard.

I'm about 5 lbs heavier than pre TRT with better diet and training. Highest body weight ever. This last 20 weeks has been life changing after about 5 years of low T and epilepsy.

Dude yes pinning test has made all the difference in my life. I can't imagine going back now
 
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