Allergic to steroids? Is this possible

[juice151]

Hey guys I'm 27 years old and I've been getting some very bad post injection pains. I've done 3 cycles in my life all 3 being test E 10-12 week cycles 500 mg a week and of course with clomid nolva as pct and arimdex as AI

Strange thing is throughout my whole 10-12 weeks every poke I've done had led to very bad soreness and swellings for atleast 5-7 days. I had a injection site go red a couple times to but goes away after 4-5 days. I never had a time where I wasn't badly sore. I use 25 gauge 1 inch needles and a rotate delt and glutes. I have innovagon labs and I know many people who take this stuff and don't get soreness as bad as me or even soreness at all. I take sanitation a big deal to make sure everything is sterile. Maybe first cycle virgin muscles? But why would I have same results with the other 2 for soreness wise. Possible to be allgeric? If gotten blood work, heart rates checked testerone levels checked from doctors to and everything comes out normal like a month after pct. Any tips how to prevent less soreness or help reduce soreness.

 

[oldmusclemike]

You can be allergic to the oil they are using. Try another lab. You really need to do this. The gear could be overdosed. You may have t dilute the gear with some other compound. Fvck that Virgin muscle theory.

We all , or at least me get PIP sometimes. . Check your sites and your procedures and if G2G then it's probably the gear.

 

[Old Duffer]

Might need a bit more info but what OMM said for sure. Some folks have problems with some oils.

High concentration blends (like 400mg/ml) as opposed to some like 200mg/ml I hear hurts more. Might be the test concentration, could be that those blends have more solvent

High volume single injections can be a problem. Like if all you could find is trt-level 100mg/ml so you are pinning 2.5mls each can be tough

Lastly, I had to learun to SLOW DOWN my injection rate. Push it in s l o w !!!

 

[juice151]

Might need a bit more info but what OMM said for sure. Some folks have problems with some oils.

High concentration blends (like 400mg/ml) as opposed to some like 200mg/ml I hear hurts more. Might be the test concentration, could be that those blends have more solvent

High volume single injections can be a problem. Like if all you could find is trt-level 100mg/ml so you are pinning 2.5mls each can be tough

Lastly, I had to learun to SLOW DOWN my injection rate. Push it in s l o w !!!

250 mg per 1ml :\

 

[Old Duffer]

Yeah, I think Oldmusclemike is right on this one. You need to change labs. Something in that junk your body don't like

 

[Die$eL~Man]

you might be sensitive to the oil.

 

[juice151]

Yeah, I think Oldmusclemike is right on this one. You need to change labs. Something in that junk your body don't like

I already have a 12 week supply....you think it's bad/dangerous for your body to have these side effects like I can man up and take the pain for another 6-7 weeks I'm already half way through but if it's not good for your system then I guess I should switch labs.

 

[Roush]

'Allergic' reactions usually entail hives, swelling, trouble breathing, etc etc.. pain at the site of injection is not a big deal or even a 'real' allergic reaction imo . I'd stick with it without worry. trying getting pharma grade gear one time and see if that is any smoother

 

[halfwit]

Let's talk injection techniques.

Are you burying the needle ALL THE WAY IN? This is usually a huge part of these problems as guys get skittish and think half way in is sufficient. You need to get that oil into the muscle belly. Too shallow, and you're putting a large depot into the subcutaneous area.

This is bad. It creates a great deal of pressure on the dermis (your skin on top), and allows the oil to travel between the gaps of fat and skin. This can cause pooling, soreness, redness, and some really uncomfortable swelling.

Allergic reactions to carriers usually result in bad itching, a fever, or even serious issues like breathing complications. Given how long you've been powering through this, I suspect it's not allergies, OR you're simply sensitive to the specific carrier.

Another factor with injection technique is to swab BOTH the vial tops AND the site. We produce oils on our skin, these oils have bacteria and other nasties that would LOVE to get past that protective barrier of skin. If you're not wiping both down (straight wipe across the vial, circular motion, moving outwards on the skin), you may be bringing unwanted guests into your body. This can cause an abscess too.

Lastly, if the gear itself is really high concentration (as mentioned above), it's going to likely contain a large amount of solvent. 300mg/ml or greater often is the case. I think it was Innovagen that had T400, which certainly qualifies.

My .02c

 

[juice151]

Let's talk injection techniques.

Are you burying the needle ALL THE WAY IN? This is usually a huge part of these problems as guys get skittish and think half way in is sufficient. You need to get that oil into the muscle belly. Too shallow, and you're putting a large depot into the subcutaneous area.

This is bad. It creates a great deal of pressure on the dermis (your skin on top), and allows the oil to travel between the gaps of fat and skin. This can cause pooling, soreness, redness, and some really uncomfortable swelling.

Allergic reactions to carriers usually result in bad itching, a fever, or even serious issues like breathing complications. Given how long you've been powering through this, I suspect it's not allergies, OR you're simply sensitive to the specific carrier.

Another factor with injection technique is to swab BOTH the vial tops AND the site. We produce oils on our skin, these oils have bacteria and other nasties that would LOVE to get past that protective barrier of skin. If you're not wiping both down (straight wipe across the vial, circular motion, moving outwards on the skin), you may be bringing unwanted guests into your body. This can cause an abscess too.

Lastly, if the gear itself is really high concentration (as mentioned above), it's going to likely contain a large amount of solvent. 300mg/ml or greater often is the case. I think it was Innovagen that had T400, which certainly qualifies.

My .02c

The cleaning is on point and I hav someone who pokes me and they make sure needle is in all of he way through also...My body does get quit warm but I fever hasn't broken out yet...problems breathing I will be short of breathe here and there randomly but nothing to serious probably everyone does notice that to cause of the amount of blood that is pumping through the system. So let's say I am "allergic" to it like i get itchy, fever, bad hives etc in the next week or 2 should I get off of it switch gears or just pull through it ....sorry I'm being difficult when it comes to my body I don't want anything to go wrong hahaha the labs I have is really popular from the area I'm from and I havnt heard anyone come close to what I experience hahaa

 

[juice151]

'Allergic' reactions usually entail hives, swelling, trouble breathing, etc etc.. pain at the site of injection is not a big deal or even a 'real' allergic reaction imo . I'd stick with it without worry. trying getting pharma grade gear one time and see if that is any smoother

It swells up quite a bit...trouble breathing not so much...hives no

 

[halfwit]

The cleaning is on point and I hav someone who pokes me and they make sure needle is in all of he way through also...My body does get quit warm but I fever hasn't broken out yet...problems breathing I will be short of breathe here and there randomly but nothing to serious probably everyone does notice that to cause of the amount of blood that is pumping through the system. So let's say I am "allergic" to it like i get itchy, fever, bad hives etc in the next week or 2 should I get off of it switch gears or just pull through it ....sorry I'm being difficult when it comes to my body I don't want anything to go wrong hahaha the labs I have is really popular from the area I'm from and I havnt heard anyone come close to what I experience hahaa

You really need to learn how to pin yourself. Unless you see that needle buried to the luer, you don't know if they are. (they can't feel it either)

Honestly, if you were having a reaction - you would have noticed it by now. Shortness of breath as a symptom; meaning you feel as if you're breathing through a straw.

 

[juice151]

So just finished week 4 onto 5 started getting itchy hands....ever heard of that one? I'm only doing 10 weeks...should I just finish it up or is it at the point to stop and switch gears

 

[halfwit]

So just finished week 4 onto 5 started getting itchy hands....ever heard of that one? I'm only doing 10 weeks...should I just finish it up or is it at the point to stop and switch gears

It sounds like it's psychosomatic to me, but if you want to switch brands - now is the time.

 

[49ERLIVES]

No

 

[juice151]

No

Why you say no

 

[49ERLIVES]

Why you say no

You cant be allergic to steroids hormones are produced in our body naturally the oil yes im sure you can ne allergic i dont think the symptoms brought up are a allergic reaction

 

[halfwit]

You cant be allergic to steroids hormones are produced in our body naturally the oil yes im sure you can ne allergic i dont think the symptoms brought up are a allergic reaction

What kills me is that I thought that the second I read the title, but knew what the OP meant haha. Ohhhhhhhhhh 49ER's back in the houseeeeee!

 

[49ERLIVES]

My body produces 15mg of tren ace ed naturally