And another H-Drol thread...

[Pero]

I've done one cycle of H-Drol last year as follows, and it did wonders for me:

6 weeks: 50/50/50/50/75/75mg

I loaded with milk thistle and hawthorn berries two weeks before I started my cycle, used Cycle Assist, milk thistle and hawthorn berries during my cycle, and for pct did Liver Assist XT, PCT Assist and Inhibit E.

I can tell you my balls had shrunk quite a bit during my cycle, and I can safely say that the above pct was piss poor, as I was shut down pretty badly.

I'm thinking of doing another cycle but want to get the pct right. I'm thinking of doing Nolva at 20/20/10/10 and using a test booster plus keep running the milk thistle and hawthorn berries for the old liver.

Has anyone got any suggestions on improving that?

 

[VicThruDomination]

im kind of wondering the same thing. Ive been wondering about the beastdrol. Exactly how could was it? have any before/afters? what all did you experience during your cycle of it? have you ever tried epi-strong, helladrol, or dieselbolan 2.0? they worth the money?

i did hear that forma-stanzolol was pretty good during post cycle therapy (pct). im a rook too man...haha

 

[Pero]

im kind of wondering the same thing. Ive been wondering about the beastdrol. Exactly how could was it? have any before/afters? what all did you experience during your cycle of it? have you ever tried epi-strong, helladrol, or dieselbolan 2.0? they worth the money?

i did hear that forma-stanzolol was pretty good during post cycle therapy (pct). im a rook too man...haha

If I'm honest, I didn't have a great experience whilst on cycle, but the increase in strength and the pumps were insane! I gained and kept about 12lbs, mostly lean.

It made me very irritable all of the time, and the night sweats were quite bad, but worst of all, my blood pressure shot up through the roof, which I know is not good. That's why with the next cycle I will run it at 50mg a week only for 6 weeks.

My biggest problem was post cycle therapy (pct). After the cycle, I was shut down and lost my motivation. It took a good while before I got back into my workouts, so I'm afraid the same will happen again if I don't sort a proper pct.

 

[MMA732]

Pero feel free to pm me for a pct guideline.

 

[bfass05]

get some clomid and use t-911(old version with androsterone) by LG for pct...worked great for me

 

[MMA732]

get some clomid and use t-911(old version with androsterone) by LG for post cycle therapy (pct)...worked great for me

BAD advice, androsterone has NO place in post cycle therapy (pct) will cause further suppression, just because libido is up does not mean testosterone is up. Clomid, HCGenerate, exemestane would be a much better laid out post cycle therapy (pct).

 

[bfass05]

BAD advice, androsterone has NO place in post cycle therapy (pct) will cause further suppression, just because libido is up does not mean testosterone is up. Clomid, HCGenerate, exemestane would be a much better laid out post cycle therapy (pct).

that is a good post cycle therapy (pct) i agree but it's not what he asked for...he didn't ask for an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) in there. Why would he need an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) such as exemestane for just halodrol anyway?

I'm thinking of doing Nolva at 20/20/10/10 and using a test booster

i suggested clomid to help out with the HPTA and t-911 as a natty test booster...which it is(it also contains resveratrol which is a proven natural anti estrogen and helps produce LH and FSH). HCGenereate does nothing but increase libido either...from the looks of what's in it, it looks like shit.

 

[bfass05]

also...when i used it I had the idea of using it as a sort of "bridge between cycles" and for me it worked perfectly fine. Small amounts of it which readily convert to DHT gave me a little extra boost and got rid of my lethargy when added to either nolva or clomid. idk to me it just looked like he was looking for a boost and that did it for me and others i've talked to as well

 

[MMA732]

that is a good post cycle therapy (pct) i agree but it's not what he asked for...he didn't ask for an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) in there. Why would he need an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) such as exemestane for just halodrol anyway?



i suggested clomid to help out with the HPTA and t-911 as a natty test booster...which it is(it also contains resveratrol which is a proven natural anti estrogen and helps produce LH and FSH). HCGenereate does nothing but increase libido either...from the looks of what's in it, it looks like shit.

After awhile on Clomid, it really spikes aromatization due to rapid LH increase, that is why I recommend Exemestane. The HCGenerate is for extra LH/Testosterone output along SHBG control which is needed when running any SERM.

Your choice of post cycle therapy (pct) is yours, but do not mess up someone's endocrine system because you FEEL its a good post cycle therapy (pct), androsterone HAS NO PLACE IN A post cycle therapy (pct) PERIOD! If you want to complain about the facts, make a thread about it. As for HCGenerate, try it and do bloodwork....

 

[bfass05]

After awhile on Clomid, it really spikes aromatization due to rapid LH increase, that is why I recommend Exemestane. The HCGenerate is for extra LH/Testosterone output along SHBG control which is needed when running any SERM.

Your choice of post cycle therapy (pct) is yours, but do not mess up someone's endocrine system because you FEEL its a good post cycle therapy (pct), androsterone HAS NO PLACE IN A post cycle therapy (pct) PERIOD! If you want to complain about the facts, make a thread about it. As for HCGenerate, try it and do bloodwork....

well then, to each his own i suppose. I suggested this, like I said, as more of a bridge and if you look back at what pero originally said he said he needed more motivation and had lethargy so i thought he may want to bridge that cycle to give him more of an edge...since that really is what bridgeing is for. So since this is an open thread for anyone and everyone's opinion, I thought I'd give mine. But there's no use arguing on these boards so I will leave you with this MMA732:

Cycle Off Of T911? - Anabolicminds.com post #7 to be specific

or this
LG Sciences T-911 [75 Tabs]

or this
T 911 as a post cycle therapy (pct)? - Iron Addicts Forums

 

[MMA732]

The new T-911 is fine the old equals suppression, go ahead and fuck up your endocrine system, but dont do it to others, nough said

 

[bfass05]

The new T-911 is fine the old equals suppression, go ahead and fuck up your endocrine system, but dont do it to others, nough said

calm down

and pero:

i would have to say just listen to MMA732 becasue he knows what he's talking about, I was just telling you what worked for me and gave me an extra boost so I felt I had to defend my position because I am the only one that knows what works best for my body pc. The only other product i would say to look into adding to your nolva is "recycle" by purus labs...I'm sure mma won't have any objections to that

 

[jbryand101b]

the ingredients in hcgenerate are all proven to have an positive effect in increasing free and total testosterone.

as well as having fadogia, the only herb i've see actual data based studie showing huge increases in lh, and testosterone.

If I had to receomend anything, it would be clomid or nolva + hcgenerate (or bridge). and if you felt the need, and Aromatase inhibitor (AI) in there. I prefer 6-bromo.

the only other otc test booster i'd recomend would be animal stak2. this is a solid product as well.

using any androsterone (dhea) or anabolic in post cycle therapy (pct) is a bad idea for one who wishes to fully restore normal hpta function.

 

[bfass05]

using any androsterone (dhea) or anabolic in post cycle therapy (pct) is a bad idea for one who wishes to fully restore normal hpta function.

.....i know it won't help for recovery but like i said in my earlier posts...pero was complaining about a LACK of motivation in the gym, hence why I recommended the t-911 with androsterone. If I meant using it for sole recovery i would not have recommended clomid or nolva...which i did recommend btw:

As Stone said, DHEA will do nothing for actual recovery bro! I do use it during post cycle therapy (pct) and off cycle but not for recovery. I usually start it with my last two weeks of Nolvadex and what it does for me is it increases my DHEA-S levels (which tend to get depleted on cycle), it increases my libido, and it elevates my mood.. which is important after coming off high levels of hormone(s). I also feel it helps me retain my gains but that's purely opinion.
Sides can vary from cycle to cycle.

from:
http://www.steroidology.com/forum/a...ea-post cycle therapy (pct)-side-effects.html

 

[bvdawg13]

bridge sounds like what he needs to use to build his motivation until he cycles next. I havn't tried it but I like what I hear.