Andriol for TRT. ..........

Alpin

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Just curious why no one really uses Andriol as a TRT option?
Is it really that ineffective?
I read if its taken with a fatty meal it works fairly decent at 120 mg/day..
 
I've done some research on it and from what I've gathered is the expense is the main drawback. That and you have to take a sizeable amount. Most people think oral and think it must be toxic but it passes through the lymphatic system so its pretty safe
 
Cost to Buy Andriol

The problem with type of dose is going to be cost to buy andriol. Andriol is pretty expensive to be taking in the amount of 8 caps per day, and I have never seen it made by anyone except for Organon& which means we wont find it on any UnderGround Labs product lists. And that means we need to pay whatever price Organon is asking...and they are asking a lot. You can easily run a cycle with several very anabolic compounds for the price of a cycle of just Andriol.

So thats our major obstacle, the expense of taking Andriol in what would be an effective dose is prohibitive to most people. One study noted that Andriol therapy, when compared with traditional Testosterone injections is roughly 7-8x more expensive (5).

Andriol Side Effects

Cost not withstanding, lets see what kind of Andriol side effects we can expect (besides the catabolic effect it will have on your wallet). Although it has a reputation for being very mild, youll still see some results from Andriol. One study using a very low dose on adolescent boys still showed a reasonable gain in Fat Free Mass(3) even though the boys were not training. And in another study focusing on the elderly, it improved their quality of life considerably (as androgens often do) (6), and also had beneficial effects on erectile dysfunction (7) (again, this is typical of androgens). This is certainly promising, but in a world where first time-ste In fact, it may even be a useful adjunct with Viagra for this purpose (8). However, in a world where first time steroid users expect upwards of 20lbs per cycle, I would suspect many will be disappointed with the 5lbs or so a cycle of Andriol will produce. Granted, thats a conservative estimate, but I cant really be confident predicting much more muscle is to be expected from Andriol. Taking a large amount of Andriol is actually pretty safe (except for your bank account), and there was even a 3 month study done in Korea, where a pretty small dose of Andriol ( 160 mg daily for 3 weeks then half that dose for the remainder of the study) resulted in a very nice rise in testosterone. Serum total testosterone increased from 2.13 +/- 1.20 ng/ml at baseline to 6.04 +/- 3.08 ng/ml (p = 0.005) after 12 weeks. In addition, free testosterone was (barely) significantly changed from 8.60 +/- 2.25 pg/ml to 11.40 +/- 3.81 pg/ml (p = 0.13) (10). However, there were no significant changes in liver function tests, red blood cell count or lipid profiles, nor were there any significant adverse reactions that would have led to the cessation of the administration of oral testosterone.

Andriol - Steroid .com
 
I posted a link to another site, along with a partial quote, but it needs a mod to approve it...so here is the partial quote by itself:

Cost to Buy Andriol

The problem with type of dose is going to be cost to buy andriol. Andriol is pretty expensive to be taking in the amount of 8 caps per day, and I have never seen it made by anyone except for Organon& which means we wont find it on any UnderGround Labs product lists. And that means we need to pay whatever price Organon is asking...and they are asking a lot. You can easily run a cycle with several very anabolic compounds for the price of a cycle of just Andriol.

So thats our major obstacle, the expense of taking Andriol in what would be an effective dose is prohibitive to most people. One study noted that Andriol therapy, when compared with traditional Testosterone injections is roughly 7-8x more expensive (5).

Andriol Side Effects

Cost not withstanding, lets see what kind of Andriol side effects we can expect (besides the catabolic effect it will have on your wallet). Although it has a reputation for being very mild, youll still see some results from Andriol. One study using a very low dose on adolescent boys still showed a reasonable gain in Fat Free Mass(3) even though the boys were not training. And in another study focusing on the elderly, it improved their quality of life considerably (as androgens often do) (6), and also had beneficial effects on erectile dysfunction (7) (again, this is typical of androgens). This is certainly promising, but in a world where first time-ste In fact, it may even be a useful adjunct with Viagra for this purpose (8). However, in a world where first time steroid users expect upwards of 20lbs per cycle, I would suspect many will be disappointed with the 5lbs or so a cycle of Andriol will produce. Granted, thats a conservative estimate, but I cant really be confident predicting much more muscle is to be expected from Andriol. Taking a large amount of Andriol is actually pretty safe (except for your bank account), and there was even a 3 month study done in Korea, where a pretty small dose of Andriol ( 160 mg daily for 3 weeks then half that dose for the remainder of the study) resulted in a very nice rise in testosterone. Serum total testosterone increased from 2.13 +/- 1.20 ng/ml at baseline to 6.04 +/- 3.08 ng/ml (p = 0.005) after 12 weeks. In addition, free testosterone was (barely) significantly changed from 8.60 +/- 2.25 pg/ml to 11.40 +/- 3.81 pg/ml (p = 0.13) (10). However, there were no significant changes in liver function tests, red blood cell count or lipid profiles, nor were there any significant adverse reactions that would have led to the cessation of the administration of oral testosterone.
 
I don't know anyone who has used it. I have only anecdotally heard that it doesn't actually yield high TT results. I have heard that despite taking a lot of it that it can be hard to get TT results higher than the 400's. But again, I don't know anyone with firsthand experience nor have I seen studies on it.
 
Theres a protocol where staying on 120 mg/day of Andriol with 20 mg nolvadex RAISES FSH and sperm count.
No suppression at all.
Not a bad deal!
You keep your HPTA running.
 
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