Another first cycle question...

Zvrk

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Hello all. Just joined, for a single reason(for now). I decided to do a first cycle. I'm far from being completely ignorant regarding AAS, but in reality, i still feel i know next to nothing about them. Things i've read, lead to a decision of going with Test E, 500 a week, 10 weeks(which ,btw, where i live is the only compound i can get safely without being afraid of false products-Test E depot-Galenika).

Some background: No competition ambitions any more. I am 30 yo,training consistently for 12 years,with good results. Hovering between 200 and 220 lbs BW, 10-14% BF year round. 5'9". I am very confident in my diet and training, 'i know how to eat and train', so i wont talk about it in the OP. Now the 'problem': i had a lot of trouble with varicocele in the last decade( two surgeries), and low sperm count. After the last one, things are alright, sperm count is good, i am a father. That was the thing that kept me from ever thinking about AAS, until now. I'm almost back to where i wanna be now, aesthetics wise, and want to try to bypass the 'almost' with a first cycle.

I can get my hands on: clomid,nolvadex, Hcg. That's it. My only real fear is gyno,next one is testes shrinking.
I realize it may sound stupid, but is all this enough for a good, smart cycle? I keep reading about using this or that from the start, or not-only if necessary(Nolva mostly). I guess my questions are about how and when(and how much) to use everything else but E, the difference between taking Nolvadex from the start and not doing that and similar...For trying to maximize gains. Pros, cons, risks and differences...

Hopefully i wont get flamed, and hopefully i'd be given an opportunity to ask more questions if i get some replies. Also, if you see anything wrong with what's typed above, please say so.

Thank you.
 
Hello all. Just joined, for a single reason(for now). I decided to do a first cycle. I'm far from being completely ignorant regarding AAS, but in reality, i still feel i know next to nothing about them. Things i've read, lead to a decision of going with Test E, 500 a week, 10 weeks(which ,btw, where i live is the only compound i can get safely without being afraid of false products-Test E depot-Galenika).

Some background: No competition ambitions any more. I am 30 yo,training consistently for 12 years,with good results. Hovering between 200 and 220 lbs BW, 10-14% BF year round. 5'9". I am very confident in my diet and training, 'i know how to eat and train', so i wont talk about it in the OP. Now the 'problem': i had a lot of trouble with varicocele in the last decade( two surgeries), and low sperm count. After the last one, things are alright, sperm count is good, i am a father. That was the thing that kept me from ever thinking about AAS, until now. I'm almost back to where i wanna be now, aesthetics wise, and want to try to bypass the 'almost' with a first cycle.

I can get my hands on: clomid,nolvadex, Hcg. That's it. My only real fear is gyno,next one is testes shrinking.
I realize it may sound stupid, but is all this enough for a good, smart cycle? I keep reading about using this or that from the start, or not-only if necessary(Nolva mostly). I guess my questions are about how and when(and how much) to use everything else but E, the difference between taking Nolvadex from the start and not doing that and similar...For trying to maximize gains. Pros, cons, risks and differences...

Hopefully i wont get flamed, and hopefully i'd be given an opportunity to ask more questions if i get some replies. Also, if you see anything wrong with what's typed above, please say so.

Thank you.

Test E 500mg week for 10-12 weeks
HCG 250iu 2x a week for all weeks on cycle
two weeks after last injection you start PCT

PCT is usually accepted as
4 weeks - 100/100/50/50 - mg/per day Clomid
4 weeks - 40/40/20/20 - mg/per day nolvadex

Where do you live? just curious
 
forgot to mention.. i hear some people taking nolvadex through out cycle, but from what i understand that is generally frowned upon.. you should get your hands on some arimidex and keep it on hand if you need it.. but at 500mg of test with your wight and bf you should probably be alright with out them.. i had no need to take any AI's when i did my first two cycles
 
Thanks for your responses.
I live in Serbia, so i'll do my best to try and find Arimidex or Letro somehow.

So just to confirm,HCG shots from the start, not sometime after last E shot?
 
Thanks for your responses.
I live in Serbia, so i'll do my best to try and find Arimidex or Letro somehow.

So just to confirm,HCG shots from the start, not sometime after last E shot?

that is the more accepted way to do it now.. back in the day we used to blast it at the end of the cycle, but research has found it is more effective to run at a low dose the entire duration of the cycle.. check ar-r.com i believe they have a liquid form of letro.. but am not sure about that.. i think they have some sort of Aromatase inhibitor (AI) on there though and you will have no issues getting it through customs
 
Test E 500mg week for 10-12 weeks
HCG 250iu 2x a week for all weeks on cycle
two weeks after last injection you start PCT

PCT is usually accepted as
4 weeks - 100/100/50/50 - mg/per day Clomid
4 weeks - 40/40/20/20 - mg/per day nolvadex

Where do you live? just curious

This is all fine except Clomid at 100mg ED for the first two weeks. This is not necessary. StoneCold posted something some time ago (month ago maybe) that shows anything over 59mg is a waste. To make it simple, just run it at 50mg ED for 4 weeks.
 
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