another post cycle therapy (pct) thread, but im confused, any help appreciate it

[greg_the_ripp]

another PCT thread, but im confused, any help appreciate it

I have clomid and nolva. I have never ran clomid before so im new to it. I know this is another pct thread but im confused on how to run the two together. is using both overkill. Read they pretty much do the same thing little difference on receptor sites. But anyways i have both. I was going to run them like this.

Nolva 40/40/20/20/20
clomid 50/50/50/50

Now my real question is i really dont know how to dose them if they are both used. Any help would be appreciated. Also i was thinking about adding in a Aromatase inhibitor (AI). Maybe aromasin. Would this be overkill. Good idea or bad idea. I read that some support an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) pct and others say that estrogen is too low. Another thing i read is that aromasin blocks the receptor permanently. Is this for ever or as long as you continue the drug. Im confused on this also. any help would greatly be appreciated.

Oh my curret cycle is test cyp for 17 weeks and EQ for 16. I know when to run the post cycle therapy (pct). im just confused on dosing.

 

[Solid Snake]

what you laid out is fine and so is adding aromasin. I dont about the receptor part with aromasin but i know a nolva/clomid/aromasin PCT is common.

 

[greg_the_ripp]

well my main concern was with the nolva and clomid. I am unsure of how to dose them together. I know some people like to dose nolva at 60mg at the begining and then taper down and others use clomid and taper down. like i said unsure of the best way to dose them when ran together.

 

[coltmc45]

You have it laid out right.

Aromasin doesn't kill the receptor it kills estro. It's good for post cycle therapy (pct) because keeping your estro down signals the body to produce more t to convert to estro to get back to homeostasis.

 

[greg_the_ripp]

So no need to run clomid high then taper down to 50 if its ran with nolva. Also would running a Aromatase inhibitor (AI) through the cycle be beneficial, not only with keeping estro down throughout, but would it make the transition to pct smoother and easier to recover, rather than just throwing it in during post cycle therapy (pct). I have read that Only aromisin should be used pct because letro and a-dex would lower it too much or be a waste because of how they interact with the serms.

 

[greg_the_ripp]

Also colt just wanted to mention i like your tag line, nector of the gods. good stuff

 

[greg_the_ripp]

Also this might sound stupid, but who is doctor skully?

 

[UserAt204]

It's already been answered. Stick with the doses you first posted. Clomid 50,50,50,50 and nolva 40,40,20,20. That's it. Nothing to change.

Nolva and clomid work slightly different so it's not a bad combo. You will want to use aromisin thru post cycle therapy (pct) as well. By suicidal it means the aromatse enzyme becomes ineffective and cannot convert test to estro. Yes it's permanent. But this is of no concern because your body continually makes new aromatas enzymes so it's not like you won't have any more. People see suicidal and think they are permanently changing their body but your not. This is the Aromatase inhibitor (AI) you want.

Adex and letro can detach from aromatase whe you stop use so all the sudden you have a bunch of aromatase that was previously taken up by the Aromatase inhibitor (AI), and now it's not so the increased number available converts estro causing a rebound effect.

Keep it simple. Clomid, nolva, aromisin.

 

[greg_the_ripp]

Alright im asking for more of your time guys and i really appreciate all of the help so far. Im just a young pup when it comes to this world and im trying to learn from guys who have been there. I have never ran an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) before. Aromisin would def. be post cycle therapy (pct) if i added and im thinking i probably should. I was also thinking that i would like to run one during the cycle itself to make it that much better. If i have understood correctly from reading about them and your guys imputs, which i greatly appreciate, a Aromatase inhibitor (AI) during cycle would ultimately allow more test to be circling with less risk of converting to estro making your cycle stronger and more effect which would give better results. would this be correct



If i was to run an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) during which one should i pick. I wouldnt want to run letro cause i read that brings it too low and would be hard on joints. plus you need some because estro helps with building muscle.

Should i run adex or aromisin during and why if you could state. Like i said im a newb.
Also how would you run it during.
Would you run until your last test injection or all the way untill the end of post cycle therapy (pct) if i choose Aromisin or i i choose a-dex during how would i transfer to Aromisin for post cycle therapy (pct).

Also this might sound stupid. I was researching them and i ended up in another forum and one guy said that an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) gave him gyno, is there any truth to this, i wouldnt think so, or is this guy just an idiot

 

[greg_the_ripp]

Alright im asking for more of your time guys and i really appreciate all of the help so far. Im just a young pup when it comes to this world and im trying to learn from guys who have been there. I have never ran an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) before. Aromisin would def. be pct if i added and im thinking i probably should. I was also thinking that i would like to run one during the cycle itself to make it that much better. If i have understood correctly from reading about them and your guys imputs, which i greatly appreciate, a Aromatase inhibitor (AI) during cycle would ultimately allow more test to be circling with less risk of converting to estro making your cycle stronger and more effect which would give better results. would this be correct



If i was to run an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) during which one should i pick. I wouldnt want to run letro cause i read that brings it too low and would be hard on joints. plus you need some because estro helps with building muscle.

Should i run adex or aromisin during and why if you could state. Like i said im a newb.
Also how would you run it during.
Would you run until your last test injection or all the way untill the end of pct if i choose Aromisin or i i choose a-dex during how would i transfer to Aromisin for pct.

Also this might sound stupid. I was researching them and i ended up in another forum and one guy said that an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) gave him gyno, is there any truth to this, i wouldnt think so, or is this guy just an idiot