Another Test, Dbol, Deca Thread

[Onthejuice92]

Whats up fellow juiceheads, now before I go any further, stats are posted:
20 years old
180 pounds
13% body fat
Height: 5'7
second cycle of aas(first was test and dbol for 10 weeks)

Now, about 2 months ago, i posted a thread saying I wanted to do a test and Winstrol (winny) cycle and asked for opinions and what not. But, I had a successful cut without the need for aas. Now I begin bulking again. I want to do a Test,Dbol,Deca and get MASSIVE. Now the plan is this:

Weeks 1-12 Test E 500mg a week. (2 shots a week)
Weeks 1-3 50mg of Dbol every day.
Weeks 1-12 Deca 200mg a week? ( 1 shot a week with test)
Weeks 10-12 Dbol 50 mg a week.
Weeks 6-12 Nolva 50mgs every other day.

PCT:
Weeks 14-18 Clomid 50 mg a day.

Here are my main questions: How many mgs of Deca is necessary a week for it to be a successful cycle? Obviously I want as less sides as possible. I have heard 200-500mgs of deca a week, but I dont know how I will react to the deca. What is a *safe* and effective dose for me?
second question: what kind of supps other then protein or creatine should I take while on this cycle? I have himalaya liver support, all vitamins from vitamine A- coq 10, magnesium, calcium, vitamine D12, and others. Joint support and fish-oil. Will most likely pick up some baby aspirin for my heart.
Third Question: What is the difference between taking Nolva as i plan to, then taking an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) with a cycle like this? Is my nolva plan effective?

Appreciate the input.

DADAWG I await your reply.

stay swollen

 

[fancyhuh101]

man you are too young to start juicing , your body is still growing and developing , takign steroids will mess you up at your age . try to put on some weight natually , get your training and diet more down before u satrt and hit your genetic potential , noone will advize u to take steroids .

 

[DD55]

Wait five years. You're too young.

 

[360]

This is a bad idea man. First of all, your deca dosage is too damn low. You should run 400/wk minimum. Second of all, why are you running nolva on cycle? And especially with a 19-nor. Do you know what nolva does in combination with a 19-nor? Hint: You'll grow tits. You need an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) and caber or prami for progesterone sides. You also need to drop the deca a couple weeks before the test because of the extremely long half life of deca and deca usually needs to be run a minimum of 12 weeks, so you're looking at 14 weeks of test. That shit stays in your system for WEEKS after you stop. I would advise you to look into a different cycle. You need to do a lot more research.

 

[Onthejuice92]

I appreciate the concern guys...I know I am young, but with that said, I am going to be stubborn and cycle anyway. I plan to cycle once a year or once every 2 years or so...

So please guys, other then upping the deca to 350 a week(not going any higher then that , no nolva, running test 2 more weeks longer then the deca, and getting on a Aromatase inhibitor (AI), is there any other advice you can give me?

I am open to a Test/Dbol only cycle.


Thanks again

 

[360]

I appreciate the concern guys...I know I am young, but with that said, I am going to be stubborn and cycle anyway. I plan to cycle once a year or once every 2 years or so...

So please guys, other then upping the deca to 350 a week(not going any higher then that , no nolva, running test 2 more weeks longer then the deca, and getting on a Aromatase inhibitor (AI), is there any other advice you can give me?

I am open to a Test/Dbol only cycle.


Thanks again

then go with the test/dbol cycle. Run this:

Test E or C (or you can try prop if u want): 500 mg/wk
Dbol: 50 mg/day for 4 wks
Make sure you have an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) on hand.
PCT is up to you. Most guys here seem to prefer classic clomid/nolva. Torem is also a good option. Don't think you'll need Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG), but if you can afford it, I'd throw it in there just for the hell of it.

 

[Truushot]

Why do any of you tell this "kid" what to do? His questions are rudimentary. Nothing a little research would yield.

You need to eat, lift, and work. 5'7" 180. 13% at 20? C'mon butterball. You are small and kinda fat. Steroids will do nothing for you. Why?

Because it really seems like you don't know how to eat, train, or read. Based on your post and your stats.

I hate to be brutal but at least I tell the truth. I'm interested in what a seasoned lifter like you moves for weight. I can guarantee the numbers are shit.

This is t an easy sport man. Juice means literally nothing as far as gains go. You could easily get to 205 and semi lean without taking juice.

You also asked what sups to take...Jesus!

Good luck man. Enjoy being 2.5 inches under that national height average. Enjoy fertility problems. Possibly bitch tits based on your serm proticol with a 19-nor.

You're ready for juice man! Way to think it through. You should knock up your girlfriend and drop out of college too. Make it a clean sweep of "correctness".

 

[unknown21]

Why do any of you tell this "kid" what to do? His questions are rudimentary. Nothing a little research would yield.

You need to eat, lift, and work. 5'7" 180. 13% at 20? C'mon butterball. You are small and kinda fat. Steroids will do nothing for you. Why?

Because it really seems like you don't know how to eat, train, or read. Based on your post and your stats.

I hate to be brutal but at least I tell the truth. I'm interested in what a seasoned lifter like you moves for weight. I can guarantee the numbers are shit.

This is t an easy sport man. Juice means literally nothing as far as gains go. You could easily get to 205 and semi lean without taking juice.

You also asked what sups to take...Jesus!

Good luck man. Enjoy being 2.5 inches under that national height average. Enjoy fertility problems. Possibly bitch tits based on your serm proticol with a 19-nor.

You're ready for juice man! Way to think it through. You should knock up your girlfriend and drop out of college too. Make it a clean sweep of "correctness".

I agree with true shot lol

 

[Onthejuice92]

Why do any of you tell this "kid" what to do? His questions are rudimentary. Nothing a little research would yield.

You need to eat, lift, and work. 5'7" 180. 13% at 20? C'mon butterball. You are small and kinda fat. Steroids will do nothing for you. Why?

Because it really seems like you don't know how to eat, train, or read. Based on your post and your stats.

I hate to be brutal but at least I tell the truth. I'm interested in what a seasoned lifter like you moves for weight. I can guarantee the numbers are shit.

This is t an easy sport man. Juice means literally nothing as far as gains go. You could easily get to 205 and semi lean without taking juice.

You also asked what sups to take...Jesus!

Good luck man. Enjoy being 2.5 inches under that national height average. Enjoy fertility problems. Possibly bitch tits based on your serm proticol with a 19-nor.

You're ready for juice man! Way to think it through. You should knock up your girlfriend and drop out of college too. Make it a clean sweep of "correctness".

You mad?

 

[johnnynix]

Goodluck with your testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) goals for the rest of your life OP

 

[Truushot]

Mad? Hell no. Annoyed yes. Annoyed by a fat weak kid who thinks taking drugs will help him either get laid for the first time or stop people from picking on him.

Why don't you tell us some of your numbers.