Anti Estrogen battles!!!

rpwhit777

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OK there are a bunch of different anti-e's as of late and just wanted to have some feed back as to which one do you guys feel is the best at stopping estrogen sides..ie:specifically( gyno, bloating)....I have used Arimidex...Liquidex( same stuff), and Nolvadex...Nolvadex did nothing for bloat...

I would like to hear your thoughts on this...I ultimately will choose the most poular option in my next cycle( As of now I plan on running Proviron and Liquidex)( Nolvadex slows my gains quite a bit just a pearsonal belief)....I dont want to blast estrogen totally, because I am trying to bulk but at the same time last cycle I got some puffy nips that scared me enough to not want that again.... (Thanks Nolvadex!!)

I guess these are my options...Arimedex, Letrozole(?) Aromasin..Femera(?) Proviron......

Thanks bro's....
 
My gyno has completely subsided while on a test cycle. I'm using Femara, proviron and Nolvadex. I had a small lump from a previous cycle that is completely gone.
 
as far as anti-aromatases, i have only used letrozole and anastrozole. both seemed fairly the same to me. of course i did not have blood tests done
 
Iam curently using ldex .8mg ed 1gram test e ew no bloat yet but iam
only 4 weeks into it,my first time with ldex .always used femera before
with not to good results kinda trying them all to see which one suits me best.
 
based on effects upon lipid profiles.....I would have to say "Arimidex" would be my choice.


Clin Cancer Res. 2003 Jan;9(1 Pt 2):468S-72S. Related Articles, Links


Pharmacology and pharmacokinetics of the newer generation aromatase inhibitors.

Buzdar AU.

Department of Breast Medical Oncology, The University of Texas M D Anderson Cancer Center, Houston, Texas 77030, USA. abuzdar@mdanderson.org

The newer generation aromatase inhibitors (AIs) as a class show efficacy and tolerability benefits over previously established treatments in postmenopausal women with advanced breast cancer. At clinically administered doses, the plasma half-lives of anastrozole (1 mg once daily), letrozole (2.5 mg once daily), and exemestane (25 mg once daily) are 41-48 h, 2-4 days, and 27 h, respectively. Time to steady-state plasma levels is 7 days for both anastrozole and exemestane and 60 days for letrozole. Androgenic side effects have only been reported with exemestane. Anastrozole treatment has no impact on plasma lipid levels, whereas both letrozole and exemestane have an unfavorable effect. From indirect comparisons, anastrozole shows the highest degree of selectivity compared with letrozole and exemestane, in terms of a lack of effect on adrenosteroidogenesis. To date, there are no data suggesting any major differences in clinical efficacy between the newer generation AIs anastrozole and letrozole. Based on the observed pharmacological profiles, however, it cannot be assumed that the AIs will display the same tolerability and safety profiles when given for extended periods of time in the adjuvant setting. The effects of anastrozole, letrozole, and exemestane are being investigated in the adjuvant setting, and these data will elucidate the possible long-term consequences of the pharmacological effects reported after short-term exposure.

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Cancer. 2002 Nov 1;95(9):2006-16. Related Articles, Links


An overview of the pharmacology and pharmacokinetics of the newer generation aromatase inhibitors anastrozole, letrozole, and exemestane.

Buzdar AU, Robertson JF, Eiermann W, Nabholtz JM.

Department of Breast Medical Oncology, The University of Texas M. D. Anderson Cancer Center, Houston 77030, USA. abuzdar@mdanderson.org

BACKGROUND: The newer generation, nonsteroidal aromatase inhibitors (AIs) anastrozole and letrozole have shown superior efficacy compared with tamoxifen as first-line treatments and compared with megestrol acetate as second-line therapy in postmenopausal women with advanced breast carcinoma. In an open-label, Phase II trial, it was reported that exemestane showed numerical superiority compared with tamoxifen for objective response and clinical benefit. Because these agents ultimately may be administered for periods of up to 5 years in the adjuvant setting, it is of increasing importance to assess their tolerability and pharmacologic profiles. METHODS: In the absence of data from direct clinical comparisons, the published literature was reviewed for the clinical pharmacology, pharmacokinetic characteristics, and selectivity profiles of anastrozole, letrozole, and exemestane. RESULTS: At clinically administered doses, the plasma half-lives of anastrozole (1 mg once daily), letrozole (2.5 mg once daily), and exemestane (25 mg once daily) were 41-48 hours, 2-4 days, and 27 hours, respectively. The time to steady-state plasma levels was 7 days for both anastrozole and exemestane and 60 days for letrozole. Androgenic side effects have been reported only with exemestane. Anastrozole treatment had no impact on plasma lipid levels, whereas both letrozole and exemestane had an unfavorable effect on plasma lipid levels. In indirect comparisons, anastrozole showed the highest degree of selectivity compared with letrozole and exemestane in terms of a lack of effect on adrenosteroidogenesis. CONCLUSIONS: All three AIs demonstrated clinical efficacy over preexisting treatments. However, there were differences in terms of pharmacokinetics and effects on lipid levels and adrenosteroidogenesis. The long-term clinical significance of these differences remains to be elucidated. Copyright 2002 American Cancer Society.


http://www.steroidology.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=6472
 
Hey Stone that was alot of good stuff thanks for the info and for the link!!! Unless some one chimes in with some studies to contradict this then I will have to agree with SCNTO...Anastrozole--Arimedex is the best way to go!!!

Where do you find these medical studies??? I have typed in key words and done alot of searches but never was able to find drug specific case studies....????

Thanks fellas...
 
I think liquidex is by far the most powerful...I don't like using it because it works too well...
 
Good posr SC, I have always liked the way liquidex works. I was on test and anavar for six months and tested out with good lipid profiles, right afterward.
 
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