Any of you bros do legs/shoulders on the same day?

[Rida5d]

@ gram if tren
Believe me if you speak in that nice way from the beginning we wouldn't have reached to that point ..
In several occasions u asked ppl to post pix as if it's relevant to the subject.. We don't go here by how many lbs u got !
We are here to learn , and having different opinions is healthy.. So try to accept other ppl opinions without attacking.. So we would be able to enhance our knowledge in a civilized way.

 

[Black Beard]

Haha, yeah. Lower reps also stimulate more myofibrillar hypertrophy(the fiber itself) while higher reps stimulate the sarcoplasm(everything else) Sarcoplasmic hypertrophy usually amounts to more volume gained in the muscle. This is why bodybuilders like to aim for higher reps. Both ranges will increase both types of hypertrophy regardless. Then we can also get into the discussion of fast twitch/slow twitch muscle fiber ratios and the muscle groups that benefit more from each type of training. There is a TON of science behind everything we do in bodybuilding/powerlifting but at the end of the day, stick to the basics, be consistent, and you will get bigger/stronger.

Right now, i DO prefer 8-12. I like the better pump and the burn. The pain from 3-5 is much different from the pain at 10-15. Lower rep training will tax your CNS to it's limits and give you a more "stress" type of stimulus. Your CNS can keep up with higher reps and lower weight but this burns out the muscle itself and when the lactic acid builds up you get that sweet burn and pump. Just mix it up and have fun.

 

[DreDay187]

Haha, yeah. Lower reps also stimulate more myofibrillar hypertrophy(the fiber itself) while higher reps stimulate the sarcoplasm(everything else) Sarcoplasmic hypertrophy usually amounts to more volume gained in the muscle. This is why bodybuilders like to aim for higher reps. Both ranges will increase both types of hypertrophy regardless. Then we can also get into the discussion of fast twitch/slow twitch muscle fiber ratios and the muscle groups that benefit more from each type of training. There is a TON of science behind everything we do in bodybuilding/powerlifting but at the end of the day, stick to the basics, be consistent, and you will get bigger/stronger.

Right now, i DO prefer 8-12. I like the better pump and the burn. The pain from 3-5 is much different from the pain at 10-15. Lower rep training will tax your CNS to it's limits and give you a more "stress" type of stimulus. Your CNS can keep up with higher reps and lower weight but this burns out the muscle itself and when the lactic acid builds up you get that sweet burn and pump. Just mix it up and have fun.

I agree with this post and think it's completely accurate.

 

[gram of tren]

I agree with this post and think it's completely accurate.

ok so since you agree with black beard saying what ive been saying all along, i guess we agree also. it's ok you just probably didnt want to give me the credit. the whole argument i made was that higher reps 10-12 were better for bodybuilding purposes. i guess it took black beard to say it before you agreed. glad we are on the same page.

 

[DreDay187]

ok so since you agree with black beard saying what ive been saying all along, i guess we agree also. it's ok you just probably didnt want to give me the credit. the whole argument i made was that higher reps 10-12 were better for bodybuilding purposes. i guess it took black beard to say it before you agreed. glad we are on the same page.

No sir, you and Blackbeard did not say the same thing. I've agreed with some of your posts before so I have no issues giving you credit brother. You dismissed several things and stated something which I believe to be incorrect which is why I didn't agree with your post. It's not personal as i take it that's how you're implying it.

 

[gram of tren]

Yea I think your right actually.. and shoulders/traps are actually my strongest muscles right now.. and i think short changing them is a bad idea. Im just gonna listen to my body and do the 4day with a rest day whenever i feel i NEED it..

Also, my priority is bodybuilding.. Im a small dude still so I eat a ton and lift heavy 5-8 reps on my big lifts than my secondarys are all 8-12

forget the 5-8 reps if you wanna lift like a bodybuilder. stay in the 10-12 rep range, slow controlled reps, and really focus on the targeted muscle. weight isn't so relevant, so long as you're using heavy enough weight to really fatigue the muscle. try to hit 12 reps at failure with excellent form and lots of squeezing the muscle. that's the ticket.

want proof? next time you go to the gym look at some of the guys benching weight that is way too heavy for them for a few reps, with loose form...and in 6 months they will look the exact the same. leave your ego out of the gym and you'll make a lot of progress, trust me

Haha, yeah. Lower reps also stimulate more myofibrillar hypertrophy(the fiber itself) while higher reps stimulate the sarcoplasm(everything else) Sarcoplasmic hypertrophy usually amounts to more volume gained in the muscle. This is why bodybuilders like to aim for higher reps. Both ranges will increase both types of hypertrophy regardless. Then we can also get into the discussion of fast twitch/slow twitch muscle fiber ratios and the muscle groups that benefit more from each type of training. There is a TON of science behind everything we do in bodybuilding/powerlifting but at the end of the day, stick to the basics, be consistent, and you will get bigger/stronger.

Right now, i DO prefer 8-12. I like the better pump and the burn. The pain from 3-5 is much different from the pain at 10-15. Lower rep training will tax your CNS to it's limits and give you a more "stress" type of stimulus. Your CNS can keep up with higher reps and lower weight but this burns out the muscle itself and when the lactic acid builds up you get that sweet burn and pump. Just mix it up and have fun.

I agree with this post and think it's completely accurate.

here you go. hope this helps.

 

[3J]

gentlemen i want this convo put to an end... i will close the thread

 

[Black Beard]

I think OP learned plenty. Thread succesful

 

[MobyDickFace]

Seriously, this post was nothing short of a wonderful influx of information for me. I appreciate you guys sharing your knowledge!

 

[3J]

which is the point of healthy discussion in the first place

 

[Black Beard]

All in a days work my friend

 

[Trevdog]

I need strength and aerobic fitness, so I normally exercise 6 days each week. 3-4 sessions of cardio 30-40 minutes each (usually intervals on a stair climber). I used to do a 4 day split for lifting but work and family demands have been very heavy so I have shifted to a 3 day split. I train legs, delta, and traps together, pecs and biceps together, and back and triceps together. I usually train abs on each lifting day. This split works well for me and makes a busy schedule bearable. I don't get burned out.