anyone asking for source checks or anything stupid


Amateur Bodybuilder
Everyone who ever tried buying anabolic steroids through different websites, knows it's highly risky. There are many people who take money and falsely promise the supply of steroids - they are known as "scammers". There is also a second category of scammers, where they send fake (bad) products which look same as originals to an untrained eye. Scammers normally work in anabolic discussion groups on the Internet where they use an e-mail address for orders OR they can set up a small websites offering steroids. Below is an example of some of the possible scams you must be aware:

1. The first category are people who call themselves the source checkers. It basically means they do everything to look genuine and offer a list of "good" suppliers. The emails or websites they give you, are ofcourse their own and used only to get your money. At the very moment, highly popular steroid forums in the USA are actually run by a group of professional scammers, working together through 2-3 websites (some UK forums are also infiltrated). All we can say is to stay away from so called encyclopedias, websites selling e-books with proven steroid sources, paid services with access to member areas with sources, etc... Never trust anyone who calls themselves a "source checker", even if they are nice and try to build trust. It is the biggest con in the steroid Internet world.

2. The second popular technique scammers use, is to publish some kind of scammer lists. Such lists are often manipulated by non-proven sources to look legit. Many websites have appeared selling steroids and also hosting scammer lists. The scammer list has now become the tool of the crooked source and the scammers themselves to discredit their competition. On each and every scammer list found online, you will find real scammers and also genuine good and reliable sources. The names of good operators are submitted to these lists by bitter rivals. Anyone can submit a name to these lists and there are no rules or requirements of proof, which makes such lists even more unserious documents. NEVER use scammer lists as a reference point to check out your supplier. They will be full of the best sources in the business submitted by small time scammers.

3. More modern scammers use different websites (online shops) selling steroids. You can identify which website is usually a scam by following:

- It may look unprofessional and without shopping cart system
- When you try to make a contact, you receive no answer
- They do not have any fraud prevention system (accept any customer...)
- They ship to any location worldwide, even if payed by credit card
- Website does not contain any "terms of use" regarding legal issues
- They never accept credit card payments, only WU, bank, e-gold...
- Prices are unusually low, same as black market, even if ordering only 1 small 1ml vial with worldwide delivery.

4. Surfing the net, you will come across certain e-zines or websites claiming to be experts in the world of steroids. They claim to be associated with all kinds of wonderful people in the hard core bodybuilding world. They usually have a nice website containing detailed profiles of each steroid and sell a so called steroid bible or a members area access containing steroid reviews, photos, sources, etc... Don't trust every steroid website or "steroid guru" you find online, claiming to be connected and all knowing. Even if they give you advices, they are most probably amateur bodybuilders and hangers on who want to sell a subscription to you.

5. The last group of people we would like to point out are those who use an extortion in order to put a good legit source on the scammer lists. Fortunately this is rare but this creature does occasionally rear his ugly head. They are often known as reverse scammers. The scammer "buyer" threatens to put the source on a scammer list unless the source sends the products he ordered. Ofcourse, the guy has never ordered or paid for the products, so it's an extortion. Another variation is when someone uses a credit card for payment and when they receive the products, they go to the bank and request a chargeback, and at the same time send emails to the supplier they didn't receive anything and posting them to the scammers lists. We take several measures to prevent this. First, we have a large database of people who tried this with us - after one chargeback request, we will ban that customer and not allow him to order from us anymore. Furthermore, we will send complete order info to the bank, revealing what was ordered and where, from which IP and on which name, meaning this individual may get into legal problems. We know it may be drastic, but we need some kind of protection against scammer buyers and through years, it has clearly shown to be an effective one.
fuck this needs to be bumped definately with all the dumb ass posts lately on sources and idiots