Anything compared closely to Tren Ace

[SonOfZeu$]

I've always said prop/npp/var/diet=tren like effects without the sides.
Npp is my favorite compound. 4cycles with it and love it.
Prop/masteron/var supposedly good as well

yea its either NPP and tren, can you give any advice on doses with NPP and sides. I had no side effects with Tren ace, besides sweating like a pig. I ran it 325mg/week for 8 weeks.

 

[SonOfZeu$]

I haven't tried var but a lot of people love var at 100mg+. Problem is it's faked like primo a lot and it's so expensive that you might as well just get tren. But yes, var can make you look really good. A lot of people the 'natural' fitness models and such love var.

Var made me hard and vascular ass hell during my last four weeks it was crazy. I was at 80mg ed for 8 weeks. KP and BP are both great brands i used. Anything pass 80mg ed gives me a tight chest

 

[SonOfZeu$]

Agreed 100%

I'm a fairly aggressive dude, off cycle, and I can say high dose tren does nothing to make me think I'd be more likely to snap. If you're a douchebag normally, gear may amplify your douchyness but it won't create it from nothing. Same for aggression, depression, work ethic, sex drive etc etc.

x2. Tren doesn't change me, only thing i hated was PCT. Tren shuts us down really badd. Even with HCG it was still kinda hard.

 

[SonOfZeu$]

1000

 

[thatotherguy]

Tren Ace nothing compares.

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Though ever thought of insulin?

 

[ELIMANNING]

Primo cost more then tren too..

You are paying extra for less sides

 

[louman]

When you say wet compounds do you mean compounds that cause more water retention?

 

[noway55]

When you say wet compounds do you mean compounds that cause more water retention?

Yes. It's just a personal observation. EQ is going to work regardless of what else you run, but for me I only see the cosmetic affects quickly (within first few weeks) if I'm lean and not on a lot of aromatizing gear (test, dbol, drol, typical bulking compounds). The leaner you are the less of an issue it is.

EQ is really good at making the muscles pop and bringing out the shoulders. It'll help keep you full and I've noticed it makes my chest stick out more (think shelf look), waist a little tighter, and helps the shoulder girdle look more... impressive (struggling for a way to describe it).

 

[SonOfZeu$]

Tren Ace nothing compares.

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Though ever thought of insulin?

no sir, doesn't insulin bloat you up. Btw i don't have much research on insulin.

 

[SonOfZeu$]

When you say wet compounds do you mean compounds that cause more water retention?

yes

 

[SonOfZeu$]

Yes. It's just a personal observation. EQ is going to work regardless of what else you run, but for me I only see the cosmetic affects quickly (within first few weeks) if I'm lean and not on a lot of aromatizing gear (test, dbol, drol, typical bulking compounds). The leaner you are the less of an issue it is.

EQ is really good at making the muscles pop and bringing out the shoulders. It'll help keep you full and I've noticed it makes my chest stick out more (think shelf look), waist a little tighter, and helps the shoulder girdle look more... impressive (struggling for a way to describe it).

doesn't EQ need to ran for at least 14-16weeks?

 

[noway55]

Yeah. I actually use it as my base compound.


Also, insulin without gh is a bad idea.

 

[theblitzkrieg]

600mg eq + 1.5g test didn't even come close to 700mg tren...

 

[justin h]

yea its either NPP and tren, can you give any advice on doses with NPP and sides. I had no side effects with Tren ace, besides sweating like a pig. I ran it 325mg/week for 8 weeks.

My personal sweet spot is 450mg/wk. I've ran it as high as 650/wk and didn't really notice a difference except a few more sides...Diet is truly the key. With tren you can get pretty sloppy with your diet and still get stellar results. With npp you want to work with the.compound diet wise to get a very clean, lean gains. If you can get ahold of some npp 200 or 250 you'll love it.

 

[kilsong]

I lovedddd tren ace. just so expensive.

Huh??
50-70 bucks a vial.
For what you get I think it's a bargain at DOUBLE that price.
Save up your money and get what you KNOW works.

 

[abusedyam]

+1 for NPP gotta love prop + NPP + var

 

[SonOfZeu$]

600mg eq + 1.5g test didn't even come close to 700mg tren...

thats alottt of test, guessing you done alottt more cycles than i have.

 

[SonOfZeu$]

My personal sweet spot is 450mg/wk. I've ran it as high as 650/wk and didn't really notice a difference except a few more sides...Diet is truly the key. With tren you can get pretty sloppy with your diet and still get stellar results. With npp you want to work with the.compound diet wise to get a very clean, lean gains. If you can get ahold of some npp 200 or 250 you'll love it.

yea omg diet is the key. I only gained about 10lbs in 12 weeks with tren and test and var. And basically recoup my body . When I did 400mg/week of tren ace, i was getting extreme pain in the upper abs; which i believe tren was causing.

 

[SonOfZeu$]

Huh??
50-70 bucks a vial.
For what you get I think it's a bargain at DOUBLE that price.
Save up your money and get what you KNOW works.

i get my tren ace for $80, even if its local.

 

[snowpatrol123]

$80 still isn't horrible, considering a 10ml vial should last two weeks if you're dosing 700mg/wk. Seems like a steep price compared to what I'm used to, though. And you don't need much else; a $40 10mL vial of prop lasts me a month when I'm running tren.