Apex All-Test 350 question

pigeon20

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Hello ology, I've been a long time lurker here but finally decided to break the silence and introduce myself! My current stats are 22 years old, 5'9", 165lbs, 15-19% bf roughly.
This is my very first cycle so far: Im currently five weeks into my 10 week cycle of Apex All-Test at 700mg per week. For my PCT, Im going to run clomid at 50mg for four weeks.
My question to you guys is this: Is pinning every sunday and thursday ok with this cycle? I understand that the prop, phenylprop, and acetate esters only have half lives of about 2-4 days. Is it absolutely necessary to pin EOD since the iso, deca, and enth provide much longer half-lives?



Btw, this is its exact dosage per ml:

-Testosterone Propionate 40mg
-Testosterone Phenylpropionate 60mg
-Testosterone Enanthate 80mg
-Testosterone Isocaproate 70mg
-Testosterone Acetate 30mg
-Testosterone Decanoate 70mg
 
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Hello ology, I've been a long time lurker here but finally decided to break the silence and introduce myself! My current stats are 22 years old, 5'9", 165lbs, 15-19% bf roughly.
This is my very first cycle so far: Im currently five weeks into my 10 week cycle of Apex All-Test at 700mg per week. For my PCT, Im going to run clomid at 50mg for four weeks.
My question to you guys is this: Is pinning every sunday and thursday ok with this cycle? I understand that the prop, phenylprop, and acetate esters only have half lives of about 2-4 days. Is it absolutely necessary to pin EOD since the iso, deca, and enth provide much longer half-lives?



Btw, this is its exact dosage per ml:

-Testosterone Propionate 40mg
-Testosterone Phenylpropionate 60mg
-Testosterone Enanthate 80mg
-Testosterone Isocaproate 70mg
-Testosterone Acetate 30mg
-Testosterone Decanoate 70mg

you've been lurking,.... but not long enough.

First cycle is test e or c 500 mgs a week for 10-12 weeks.

I don't even know what to tell you, sounds like you should have joined, posted your proposed cycle and gone from there.

Your 22, too young,

Your 165, too light

Your 18%bf, too high.

Your an idiot.
 
you've been lurking,.... but not long enough.

First cycle is test e or c 500 mgs a week for 10-12 weeks.

I don't even know what to tell you, sounds like you should have joined, posted your proposed cycle and gone from there.

Your 22, too young,

Your 165, too light

Your 18%bf, too high.

Your an idiot.

That's "You're" not "Your" for the idiot one.... and you're right! ;)
 
you've been lurking,.... but not long enough.

First cycle is test e or c 500 mgs a week for 10-12 weeks.

I don't even know what to tell you, sounds like you should have joined, posted your proposed cycle and gone from there.

Your 22, too young,

Your 165, too light

Your 18%bf, too high.

Your an idiot.




Ive been working out hard for about four years now. but I feel as though ive plateaued a little in terms of strength and weight, even though i eat a healthy 3500ish calories a day (seriously).
and if 18% is too high, then im not 18%. ive never gotten it calculated before, so its probably wayy off when i guesstimate. Im not lean and cut like a competitor, but i still have abs poking through and vascular as shit. so im probably around 12-15% actually...

I already know the "first-cycle code" around here (500mg). its not an option bc these are the two bottles i got, and 2cc a week is an even 700mg/10wk. its not the end of the world, it just means i have to take my PCT even more serious.


BACK TO THE POINT:
whats up with these half-lives...pin EOD or 2x/week???
 
Ive been working out hard for about four years now. but I feel as though ive plateaued a little in terms of strength and weight, even though i eat a healthy 3500ish calories a day (seriously).
and if 18% is too high, then im not 18%. ive never gotten it calculated before, so its probably wayy off when i guesstimate. Im not lean and cut like a competitor, but i still have abs poking through and vascular as shit. so im probably around 12-15% actually...

I already know the "first-cycle code" around here (500mg). its not an option bc these are the two bottles i got, and 2cc a week is an even 700mg/10wk. its not the end of the world, it just means i have to take my PCT even more serious.


BACK TO THE POINT:
whats up with these half-lives...pin EOD or 2x/week???

i call bull shit. Kid doesn't know his BF thinks he is eating a true 3500 call diet and still only weighing 165, You say you have been at this for 4 years?........ and as for me dosage more than you need for a first cycle.... oh and yeah i agree 22 is too young.

ok with that said. I'm not trying to be a total ass. we are to contribute on this site not just flame everyone.

Are you running an Aromatase inhibitor (AI), Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG), how does you PCT look?
 
i call bull shit. Kid doesn't know his BF thinks he is eating a true 3500 call diet and still only weighing 165, You say you have been at this for 4 years?........ and as for me dosage more than you need for a first cycle.... oh and yeah i agree 22 is too young.

ok with that said. I'm not trying to be a total ass. we are to contribute on this site not just flame everyone.

Are you running an Aromatase inhibitor (AI), Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG), how does you PCT look?


My weight and age were not to be a topic for discussion. Im the only one who knows my body, and its clear my test levels have plateaued at this age.

I'd be happy to log a typical day's eating for you as well. But in a nutshell it consists heavily of chicken and fish for protein (and recently turkey). I don't eat red meat every day. When i do eat red meat, it is almost always a 16oz steak only 2-3 times a week...and never processed garbage meat. my carbs come from various rices most of the time (white, brown, "red", etc).

I already went over my post cycle therapy (pct). its in the first post above. and no, im not running anything alongside the test. its supposed to be a fairly simple first cycle.
I came here with one question though, and still no answer...
 
Obviously its not optimal and you know that but you will be fine. May experience more sides than necessary but thats your call bud.
 
Obviously its not optimal and you know that but you will be fine. May experience more sides than necessary but thats your call bud.

well, im actually five weeks in right now and ive gotten some acne on both my shoulders. if i had to choose any side-effect to get, this would be it. but i still check for lumps and gyno every morning.
 
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