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evochris said:
my father is about 400 pounds long story short he got put on a SHIT load of prednisone and he put on about 100+ pounds.... my question was what besides dite and cardio ( tryed many times with out much to show for it) was wondering if any thing like clen would help. i know he should wait to do a real cycle with test and every thing just try to see what could help him.. ty sorry if this sounds dumb
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your dad certainly does not sound like someone who should just be throwing drugs like clen around. what he needs to do is really be devoted to diet and cardio...there is no way it just doesnt work for someone, he just has to make it his utmost priority.

I helped a guy this year come down from 460lbs to 300lbs as of two wks ago with just simple diet and cardio regimens. he took it seriously and didn't look for a dangerous, unnecessary short cut. best of luck to your dad, im very sorry to hear about his situation.
 
evochris said:
my father is about 400 pounds long story short he got put on a SHIT load of prednisone and he put on about 100+ pounds.... my question was what besides dite and cardio ( tryed many times with out much to show for it) was wondering if any thing like clen would help. i know he should wait to do a real cycle with test and every thing just try to see what could help him.. ty sorry if this sounds dumb
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Diuretics and aromatize inhibitors
 
Scarz said:
Let me clear some things up for you dtone. This thread was started for the obvious reasons mentioned, but it was NOT intended for "me" to answer everyone's questions as if I were some type of "Dr. Phill" of steroids and cycles. I also made this clear many times that if members know the answer to a question they should feel free to answer it...contribute. And if I answer someone's question and someone see's I made an error I urged for others to correct it. if you think you're mister perfect then you're in for a shock at some point in your life dude.

You're also more than welcome to go back and put ure .02 cents anywhere u see something missed or needs correciton.

Let me also remind you one more thing, this thread was strictly a "flame-free" thread. But apparently you ignored that part and flamed away. For that reason alone I'm not going to flame back at you dude. Respect the thread, respect anyone who contributed to it in helping others, but feel free to contribute if you think you have the knowledge and xperience as I'm sure you do dude.

Don't make the mistake of coming in here and flaming anyone for answering anyone's question or flaming anyone for asking a question.

Not to mention, it's easy to talk from the side lines. Let's see you point out what you're talkin about.
Happy Holidays to u too kiddo.
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dude...yikes. i was just fucking around man. that comment was totally not to be taken seriously. i wasn't flaming anyone, especially you, just poking fun when an opportunity arose. i dont think i know everything...geez man, you've got me all wrong.

dont really know what to say here...this is awkward. ill just edit the post so no one else makes the mistake of taking it seriously. cool down scarz, we're bros. great thread, info and intentions for real.
 
evochris said:
my father is about 400 pounds long story short he got put on a SHIT load of prednisone and he put on about 100+ pounds.... my question was what besides dite and cardio ( tryed many times with out much to show for it) was wondering if any thing like clen would help. i know he should wait to do a real cycle with test and every thing just try to see what could help him.. ty sorry if this sounds dumb
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Tried many times on diet and cardio without much to show for it? Sketchy ...

I used to weigh 390 and I can tell you that you don't get to be that fat without poor eating and exercise habits. Even some moderate changes at that weight should yield results (say, 500 less calories per day and three times a week in the gym).

I lost all the weight without any AAS; just good dieting and activity. Sure, it was in the early 90s and I tried every bullshit Weider supplement, but the formula for weight loss for the obese remains the same: less calories, more activity.

Good luck to your father ...
 
well first off thank you guys for the support... as far as him being over weight in the first place he used to be a truck driver but hated being away from his family so quit that. after that we started raising birds ( i know kinda odd but it worked lol ) he ended up getting what is referred to as " bird fancyer's diseases" where his body thought that the bird dander was bad and would attack it with white blood cells making his lungs fill with "puss"...... so because of this he has a hard time doing cardio cause no longer has the best lung function. he has went for months at a time having a personal trainer to help him. and would not lose much weight but pants sizes would drop

this is a lot of the reason on why i was asking about clen from what i have read it is used a lot to treat Asama. i was thinking this would be good for him and help him with his shortness of breath as well as helping with the weight

sorry guys for the long post but sounded like i needed to go in to a bit more specifics to help you guys help me
 
No way ... speaking as someone who has asthma, clen does not help.

Why not just walk his ass off? Get a X-Vest and hit the treadmill.
 
lol really think he needs that when he is allready carrying around 200+ pounds more than most people.. i think he is good on the added weight
 
It's not about the added weight compared to others ... it's the added weight compared to his frame which makes his effort at walking more challenging ... plus the extra weight-bearing will assist his core.
 
i just started working out again after 6 months, and prior to that i had worked out for 3 years and did a couple of prohormones through out the years. about a year ago i did steriods and was looking at my best but stopped working out like i said 6 months ago. now my nipples are kind of puffy and sensitive. i was wondering that maybe my estrogen levels are low.... so im thinking of taking halovar and after that take a test booster... is that good or something eles would be better? like i said i need help to see what i should take in order to get the mass i had and get lean and hard muscle.. i have lost a total of 25 pounds and would like to be back to 175 like i used to..... what should i do?????
 
geoffrey6 said:
i just started working out again after 6 months, and prior to that i had worked out for 3 years and did a couple of prohormones through out the years. about a year ago i did steriods and was looking at my best but stopped working out like i said 6 months ago. now my nipples are kind of puffy and sensitive. i was wondering that maybe my estrogen levels are low.... so im thinking of taking halovar and after that take a test booster... is that good or something eles would be better? like i said i need help to see what i should take in order to get the mass i had and get lean and hard muscle.. i have lost a total of 25 pounds and would like to be back to 175 like i used to..... what should i do?????
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If you are saying your nipples are puffy and itchy, and you feel your hormones are out of wack, H-Drol is going to do nothing but wack your hormones out even more then they already are.
I would say get back in the gym, get a serious diet and training program going, and if after a few months you aren't making the gains you think you should be, see a doc and get some bloodwork done.
I know you don't want to hear it, because I wouldn't either, but it sounds to me like this isn't the time for you to be messing with your hormones.
Get a good routine going, and re-evaluate in a few months.
Pretty sure you'de regret it for the rest of your life if you end up with a hairy set of tits, that are irreversible.
 
geoffrey6 said:
ya sux but i guess what you say makes sense.... think a test booster could help???
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Well I dont think it could hurt. If you want pick up some tribulus or somthing. I liked it.
But more importantly make sure your base supplements are down first.
Make sure you've got a good multi-vitamin. You'de be surprised what it can do for you.
Im also a firm beleiver in zinc as a testosterone stimulator. Maybe try that too at about 30mg a day.
Think about it man, if you've been out of the gym for 6 months, If you do it right you will make gains like you're on gear naturally, and you're not going to risk digging your self deeper into a hole.
 
"The fact that there are a number of similar, effective asthma medications already available in this country may have something to do with this"

that is what i had found on the profile on the website.. that is why i was thinking clen for him. i think the clen would help him drop the weight not just the pants size and possable help him out a bit with his lungs so he can do more cardio..

yeh man, clen is used sometimes to treat asthma. only going by what i'm reading on paper from you, a strict diet, cardio in addition to clen may help your dad. i would definetly consult a doc first. make sure it doesn't interact with any other medications he may be taking.
 
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