Bad Clomid Side Effects – 2 weeks in

[Tiffer]

Hi All,
Ok so I have tried Clomid for 2 weeks now and it hasn't been great. I started at 25mg EOD but it made me very anxious. I also noticed headaches, no libido and ED. The weird thing is that my penis feels shrivelled up - almost trying to withdraw into my body (if you have ever taken pseudo ephedrine it is the same effect). I stopped for 3 days and went down to 12.5 EOD but the sides are still there. I have Arimidex on hand and have taken 0.25mg on 4 occasions over the 2 weeks and not noticed any difference.
Anyway, I don't see this as a long term trt option for me. Any thoughts on this? I was thinking my next option would be the traditional trifecta, i.e.
50mg Testosterone enanthate/cypionate every third day
0.25mg Arimidex every third day
500IU HCG every third day
The only thing is my doc seems to be scared of prescribing HCG.
Any suggestions would be appreciated.

 

[ezed413]

Hi All,
Ok so I have tried Clomid for 2 weeks now and it hasn't been great. I started at 25mg EOD but it made me very anxious. I also noticed headaches, no libido and ED. The weird thing is that my penis feels shrivelled up - almost trying to withdraw into my body (if you have ever taken pseudo ephedrine it is the same effect). I stopped for 3 days and went down to 12.5 EOD but the sides are still there. I have Arimidex on hand and have taken 0.25mg on 4 occasions over the 2 weeks and not noticed any difference.
Anyway, I don't see this as a long term trt option for me. Any thoughts on this? I was thinking my next option would be the traditional trifecta, i.e.
50mg Testosterone enanthate/cypionate every third day
0.25mg Arimidex every third day
500IU HCG every third day
The only thing is my doc seems to be scared of prescribing HCG.
Any suggestions would be appreciated.

Wow, so clomid killed your libido. I have been taking clomid since being on TRT, 9 months now. My libido sucks. I stopped taking it a few days ago. Going to ask the doctor to prescribe hcg.

I do think you can get it without a script in case your doctor won't prescribe it.

 

[JimiThing]

Clomid is an excellent option for some, for others not so much. Everyone is different.
As far as hcg 500 e3d seems a tad high to me. Im thinking more like 250 e3d or the newer 100iu/day method some are trying with good success.

 

[Tiffer]

Yep it seems like it doesn't mix well with me. Are you guys talking about HCG mono or adding test cyp as well? Did the Clomid at least get your TT to a good level?

 

[ezed413]

Yep it seems like it doesn't mix well with me. Are you guys talking about HCG mono or adding test cyp as well? Did the Clomid at least get your TT to a good level?

Clomid mono got my total test up to 750.

I am doing 100mg of Test C a week. Want to keep the boys active, so I am going to add hcg.

 

[Alpin]

That is really a low dose. You must be one of the unlucky ones with bad sides. Theres guys that can take 50 mg ED with no sides....
I guess you are over aromatizing or something?
R these 25 mg tabs you are using?

 

[Tiffer]

They are actually a generic called Fertomid made by Cipla - pink tabs with a score down the middle - 50mg. So I have to quarter them to get 12.5.

 

[Alpin]

Generic from where an online pharmacy?
This is not from a pharmacy you walked into yourself to fill a script right?

 

[Tiffer]

It was my regular walk in pharmacy where I filled the script from my doc - it seems Clomid is in short supply here and Fertomid is the only stuff they had but it is meant to be the generic - Clomiphene Citrate 50 mg. I can always search around for the original at other pharmacies?

 

[JimiThing]

It was my regular walk in pharmacy where I filled the script from my doc - it seems Clomid is in short supply here and Fertomid is the only stuff they had but it is meant to be the generic - Clomiphene Citrate 50 mg. I can always search around for the original at other pharmacies?

There is nothing wrong with that clomid.

 

[Alpin]

If you got it from the pharmacy....
You are in good shape.
Thats a low dose. I just haven't heard of guys getting sides with 25 mg EOD. There was a study where guys took 50 mg EOD for 4 months and no negative sides were reported.

 

[Alpin]

Maybe you drove down estrogen too low by using the adex?

 

[Alpin]

FYI

Driving estradiol too low with Adex can cause anxiety, headaches and all the other stuff you mentioned. You said you took 4 doses of 0.25 mg Adex and you are 2 weeks into the low dose clomid?
That means you basically started the adex with the low dose clomid. Sounds like you lowered your Estradiol and its not clomid to blame. The most sensitive guys can handle 25 mg eod clomid.

 

[JimiThing]

Maybe you drove down estrogen too low by using the adex?

FYI

Driving estradiol too low with Adex can cause anxiety, headaches and all the other stuff you mentioned. You said you took 4 doses of 0.25 mg Adex and you are 2 weeks into the low dose clomid?
That means you basically started the adex with the low dose clomid. Sounds like you lowered your Estradiol and its not clomid to blame. The most sensitive guys can handle 25 mg eod clomid.

Excellent observation Im inclined to agree.

 

[Tiffer]

Thanks for the help - this does make sense. I am not going to touch Adex until I know I definitely need it then. Would you recommend continuing with the low dose Clomid to try and raise E2 or just to stop everything? I know Clomid raises E2 but has some anti estrogen effects in the brain so am not sure if this will help or worsen my situation atm. Another post recommended DHEA to raise E2 - I have this on hand.