Bro, no disrespect but did I read your post correctly? 5'9" and 242lbs? Are you as wide as you are tall? (not in a bad way I see you are also 10% BF)
OK, but seriously I'd say run EQ for at least 14 weeks, as it can take 8-10 weeks to kick in.
Get some dostinex or bromo on hand just in case of progesterone related sides from tren.
This might also be of interest to you (I read this on another forum I read often)
Posted by Eleven11
Everything Im writing here is based on my personal opinion from info Ive read and from personal trial and error.
Ive done many cycles that did not include HCG in my early days, hell I didn't even know what post cycle therapy (pct) was. This was WAY before the internet so all my info was from freinds and the few books that were around.
I've done cycles that ended with just using HCG the 2wks after my last testE shot and saw results from that(1,000ius 2xwk/ 2wks). IMO never go over 2,000ius per week.
But in 2005 I started using small amounts of HCG throughout the cycle with much better results. The theory behind this is to give constant stimulation throughout the cycle and not let your own test production stop, or at least minimize it. Ive also noticed my sex drive stayed constant while on HCG even when using Tren or Npp/Deca and doing very long cycles. This is without a doubt the best way to run it and IMO leads to better overall gains, reason is not only are you using artificial Test/AAS but you are still producing your own, to me this makes since.
There are 3 ways to use this method. note: always use the LEAST amount that you can get results from.
1) 100ius ED starting after wk1 and continued through cycle and for 4-18days after last AAS shot depending on the ester length (prop 3days - testE 14days - test Cyp 18days). Always make the last HCG shot on day ester clears.
2) 250-300ius EOD or 2xwk and (same as above)
3) 500ius E5D starting after wk1 and (same as above)
Ive done all and really can't say one is better, with #2-3 you won't go through as many needles but all have worked well for me.
post cycle therapy (pct) ( post cycle therapy )
Key word here is POST, meaning after the cycle is over and that means after all AAS esters have cleared your system not after your final shot.
HCG IS NOT FOR post cycle therapy (pct) IT IS FOR PRE-post cycle therapy (pct), the time during your cycle and after last shot of AAS while esters are clearing. post cycle therapy (pct) starts on DAY4 after your last HCG shot. The reason for this is when you inject HCG you will get a spike several hours after shot and then again 48-72 hours later, after this final spike is when you want to start your post cycle therapy (pct). Again HCG is not used for post cycle therapy (pct).
Most my post cycle therapy (pct)s have looked like this. Starting on day4 after last HCG shot. Start your clomid and nolva on the same day but always run your nolva at least a 1-2 wks longer
3-4wks of clomid @ 50mg ed (in my early days Ive used higher amounts but feel its not needed)
5-6wks of nolva @ 40mg ed 2wks and 20mg ed for remainder
IMO a post cycle therapy (pct) should last at least 4-6wks+
Also there seems to be great alternative to clomid/nolva these days, some are available here on OLM.
Other info you will need.
Always use Bac water to mix your HCG, it will last up to 60 days in the fridge when BW is used. I never read any reason to store HCG p0wder in fridge. A cool dark place is fine.
With smaller amps/vials of under 5000ius ie 1500iu amps the water that comes with it is fine(up to 30days)
Always use an insulin needle for injecting, size of slinpin does not matter but I use 29/30g 1cc.
MIXING
Use the bacwater, draw out 1cc BW(use a 1cc slinpin #10-100) and slowly add to p0wder and gently swirl till mixed. Then draw out mixture(if in an amp. If already in a vial just refrigerate) with 1.5" needle and inject into vial or leave in syringe and refrigerate. If you add 1cc to 5000ius then every 10mark on your 1cc slinpin will be 500ius of HCG (use E5D) if you want to use 250ius EOD then mix 2cc's BW into p0wder and then every 10mark will have 250ius..........11
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Now like I said this is my personal opinion on HCG.
Can you get by without HCG, sure.
Can you get by without post cycle therapy (pct), sure
Can you build muscle without AAS, yes.
But if your going to spent your hard earned $$ on AAS, food and training then at least spend a little extra on trying to keep as much of those gains as possible and make recovery as easy as possible................11
