Blood Pressure up. What should I take? ACE, BB, or ARB?

[Hugh Jerection]

My natural BP is within normal range, but my current Test C / Tren E cycle has increased it to 145/90. I have some nebivolol on hand (a newish beta blocker) that I've been taking at night to lower my heart rate and help me relax during the trensomnia. I'm running out tho, and probably should think through my options...

Should I consider an ACE-Inhibitor like Lisinopril? Or maybe something further down the RAAS cascade like an
ARB or CCB?

 

[PrinceDianabol]

You should see a doctor.

In the meantime, you could use Cialis and/or Arginine. Hot showers help temporarily too. You may also need to donate blood, or self-plehbotomize.

 

[Hugh Jerection]

You should see a doctor.

In the meantime, you could use Cialis and/or Arginine. Hot showers help temporarily too. You may also need to donate blood, or self-plehbotomize.

Yeah, yeah. Just got phlebotomized and take 5mg Cialis every day. Arginine every day as well.

I don't need to see a doctor for a transient hemodynamic effect, and get an entry put in my medical records. Looking for a real opinion here.

 

[PrinceDianabol]

Yeah, yeah. Just got phlebotomized and take 5mg Cialis every day. Arginine every day as well.

I don't need to see a doctor for a transient hemodynamic effect, and get an entry put in my medical records. Looking for a real opinion here.

Okay, I'll give you my 'real opinion.' I think your an idiot for running tren cycles, especially enth, when you have hypertensive issues. I also think it was stupid to allow yourself to run out of necessary medications whilst on cycle. Futhermore, I think it was also idiotic to not have a back up plan in place for this very situation, since you are obviously prone. Instead, you decided to wait until you are Stage 1 Hypertensive to ask for advice a forum.

Not only that, but when advice was given to you, you acted like a dick. So there ya go.

 

[Hugh Jerection]

Okay, I'll give you my 'real opinion.' I think your an idiot for running tren cycles, especially enth, when you have hypertensive issues. I also think it was stupid to allow yourself to run out of necessary medications whilst on cycle. Futhermore, I think it was also idiotic to not have a back up plan in place for this very situation, since you are obviously prone. Instead, you decided to wait until you are Stage 1 Hypertensive to ask for advice a forum.

Not only that, but when advice was given to you, you acted like a dick. So there ya go.

You don't read very well, so I'll break it down for you. I don't have "hypertensive issues." If you had actually read my post, where I said "...my natural BP is within normal range..." then you would have known this. It was the very first line.

Secondly, I haven't run out of anything. Once again, a bit of reading comprehension on your part would have allowed you to grasp the subtleties between "running out, and I should look at my options" and "OMG IVE RUN OUT AND DON"T HAVE ANY MORE !!! DERP!!!"

Thirdly, it isn't idiotic that I didn't have a back up plan. I have a back up plan, the nebivolol. HELLO? Still sitting on 40-something doses. Do you read much at all?

And now that you've tried to noob me and all, you throw in the "Stage 1 Hypertensive" term. Is that the best you can come up with to try to sound like you know something about hypertension? Pretty funny really. Considering my whole post completely went over your head. You obviously have no idea what an ACE, BetaBlocker, ARB or calcium channel blocker is, where they act within the RAAS, and you really shouldn't have even bothered to answer my post with your "see a doctor" BS. It's now obvious that you completely missed the entire point.

 

[Gbrad]

You don't read very well, so I'll break it down for you. I don't have "hypertensive issues." If you had actually read my post, where I said "...my natural BP is within normal range..." then you would have known this. It was the very first line.

Secondly, I haven't run out of anything. Once again, a bit of reading comprehension on your part would have allowed you to grasp the subtleties between "running out, and I should look at my options" and "OMG IVE RUN OUT AND DON"T HAVE ANY MORE !!! DERP!!!"

Thirdly, it isn't idiotic that I didn't have a back up plan. I have a back up plan, the nebivolol. HELLO? Still sitting on 40-something doses. Do you read much at all?

And now that you've tried to noob me and all, you throw in the "Stage 1 Hypertensive" term. Is that the best you can come up with to try to sound like you know something about hypertension? Pretty funny really. Considering my whole post completely went over your head. You obviously have no idea what an ACE, BetaBlocker, ARB or calcium channel blocker is, where they act within the RAAS, and you really shouldn't have even bothered to answer my post with your "see a doctor" BS. It's now obvious that you completely missed the entire point.

C mon man. Why ask for opinions when you seem to have it all figured out anyway? You have hypertensive issues regardless if they are transient or not. Correct? Otherwise your thread is useless. So don't be an asshole to people who have contributed to this forum.

Perhaps a non-dihydropyridine CCB would be a good choice for transient hypertensive scenarios. ACEs and ARBs offer end organ protection but are probably of better value when needed for systematic treatment of a diagnosis of hypertension. Dihydropyridines are longer acting as well and would better serve a role in a long term strategy.

 

[Hugh Jerection]

C mon man. Why ask for opinions when you seem to have it all figured out anyway? You have hypertensive issues regardless if they are transient or not. Correct? Otherwise your thread is useless. So don't be an asshole to people who have contributed to this forum.

Perhaps a non-dihydropyridine CCB would be a good choice for transient hypertensive scenarios. ACEs and ARBs offer end organ protection but are probably of better value when needed for systematic treatment of a diagnosis of hypertension. Dihydropyridines are longer acting as well and would better serve a role in a long term strategy.

Thank you sir. Your response to the question is appreciated.

And really, not trying to be an ass. But this guy COMPLETELY ignored the question (stated both in the title and the last line of the post) and basically told me to fuck off and see a doctor. I mean I basically said "what should I take? A, B, or C?" And he comes and says "Don't ask the question, see a doctor."

I think I was fair in my response.

 

[carverelli]

140/90 isn't dangerous during a 12-16 week cycle imo, as long as it comes down off cycle. 155/100 or higher needs to be dealt with, as it is most likely higher during lifting sessions, especially deads and squats. Unless, there are other issues along with hypertension caused by hbp

 

[PrinceDianabol]

You don't read very well, so I'll break it down for you. I don't have "hypertensive issues." If you had actually read my post, where I said "...my natural BP is within normal range..." then you would have known this. It was the very first line.

You expect me to believe that you are on daily doses of Cialis, Arginine and Nebivolol, have plehbotomized recently, presumably regularly check your blood pressure often and your STILL hyper - when you don't have hypertensive issues? Yes your natural BP is normal... good for you. But your not natural now, nor is your bp normal. So you have hypertensive issues. Why is that so hard to understand?

Secondly, I haven't run out of anything. Once again, a bit of reading comprehension on your part would have allowed you to grasp the subtleties between "running out, and I should look at my options" and "OMG IVE RUN OUT AND DON"T HAVE ANY MORE !!! DERP!!!"

Thirdly, it isn't idiotic that I didn't have a back up plan. I have a back up plan, the nebivolol. HELLO? Still sitting on 40-something doses. Do you read much at all?

Oh I see, so your back up plan is the compound you stated you are "running out of." Sounds like an intelligent back up plan LOL.

Now you say I have comprehension difficulties... I think you just didn't explain yourself very well, and now your getting cranky about it. To me, "I'm running out" means "I'm running out."

And now that you've tried to noob me and all, you throw in the "Stage 1 Hypertensive" term. Is that the best you can come up with to try to sound like you know something about hypertension? Pretty funny really. Considering my whole post completely went over your head. You obviously have no idea what an ACE, BetaBlocker, ARB or calcium channel blocker is, where they act within the RAAS, and you really shouldn't have even bothered to answer my post with your "see a doctor" BS. It's now obvious that you completely missed the entire point.

I don't see how I tried to noob you lol.. you ARE stage 1 hyper. No, I'm not familiar with those classes of compounds because I haven't ever needed to research them. If I had trouble with hypertension on cycles, I would... And I would have decided on my best course of action if I ran into any issues beforehand. Because I like to think ahead

I gave you the best advice based on the solid knowledge I have. Considering I've never spent much time looking into those compounds it would be a bit silly for me to attempt to give you advice on them wouldn't it? But what would you know about being responsible, it doesn't seem to be your strong suit.

Maybe it's just the tren man, but I offered you my opinion and you acted like a jackass. You could've turned around and said 'thanks but I actually need stronger compounds/more effective methods etc.' but no, you came back with an attitude. Hence why I responded with attitude. You give what you get.

and basically told me to fuck off and see a doctor

Your very touchy. I don't know how you got that from my post, but whatever. I don't feel like it's ever a bad idea to tell someone to get professional medical advice, especially when they currently have high blood pressure but I guess we are all different. And FYI I never said go in there and tell him your running AAS lol.

Normally I don't partake in these kinds of internet arguments lol. Your probably gonna respond with some heated reply but I'm done. Just wanted to explain myself. If I may offer one more piece of advice to you though; don't run compounds you can't handle Both physiologically (your bp) and psychologically (your temperament.)