Blood Work Came Back Low Test - What now?

[Strong Man]

Ok cool good to know, I did chest tonight and hit 225 for 5 clean reps... nothing compared to the 20 I used to do but I guess it's a lot more than what your average guy can do, gives me a little hope lol.. - But yeah, as far as the blood test goes is that how it works? I just order it then go to the chosen location to have blood drawn?

Yes just follow the directions on the website. Yes you choose the location near you and you can go there anytime but it's best to do bloodwork first thing in the morning (no appointment needed)They will then email your results back to Private Labs and then they will email you. You'll need to be fasting for 12 hours. Everything that I am telling you is on their website

 

[Old Duffer]

Order female hormone panel. Then when inputting personal info, check male. The draw station you chose (where they take the blood samples) does not care one way or the other. Pay on Web site. Site will email you link to form. Print form. Take form to draw station. If they ask about insurance, just tell them it's prepaid. The form says so, but they don't see it often and may ask. They suck a bunch of blood. A week later email will come with link to Web site for results. No one sees them but you.

Report back here. Don't panic.

 

[Tarmagoyf]

OK everyone thank you so much for all of your help, I got the female hormone panel, here are the results. I have no idea how to read this so if you guys could let me know what I'm looking at I'd appreciate the hell out of it! Thanks everyone!

https://imgur.com/a/eaCk3

Yes just follow the directions on the website. Yes you choose the location near you and you can go there anytime but it's best to do bloodwork first thing in the morning (no appointment needed)They will then email your results back to Private Labs and then they will email you. You'll need to be fasting for 12 hours. Everything that I am telling you is on their website

 

[Strong Man]

OK everyone thank you so much for all of your help, I got the female hormone panel, here are the results. I have no idea how to read this so if you guys could let me know what I'm looking at I'd appreciate the hell out of it! Thanks everyone!

https://imgur.com/a/eaCk3

Yes your total testosterone is still low. Your LH and FSH are not the best but they are in the normal range. Those two hormones are responsible for sending the signal to the leydig cells in your testicles to produce testosterone. Typically that's the first place to look when someone runs a cycle and they didn't recover. That being said your LH,FSH numbers are normal so how long has it been since you've ran your cycle meaning how many weeks after you finished your post cycle therapy has it been? Some people can bounce back right after they finish their PCT and others they can actually take several months to get your levels back up to and optimal level.

 

[Tarmagoyf]

Yes your total testosterone is still low. Your LH and FSH are not the best but they are in the normal range. Those two hormones are responsible for sending the signal to the leydig cells in your testicles to produce testosterone. Typically that's the first place to look when someone runs a cycle and they didn't recover. That being said your LH,FSH numbers are normal so how long has it been since you've ran your cycle meaning how many weeks after you finished your post cycle therapy has it been? Some people can bounce back right after they finish their PCT and others they can actually take several months to get your levels back up to and optimal level.

It's been 7 months.... also, how low is it exactly? Like equivalent to an 80 year old or..?

 

[Strong Man]

It's been 7 months.... also, how low is it exactly? Like equivalent to an 80 year old or..?

Well you're low but you could be a lot worse. It really varies person-to-person with your level someone could feel great and then the next person could have symptoms. I myself have symptoms at those numbers as well and I started TRT at 33

First option you could try and run another post cycle therapy 4weeks and wait two weeks after you finish and get blood work again. That might help the testes wake up and produce more testosterone. I wouldn't freak out yet because there's plenty of people that have had to run 2 post cycle therapy to get things back up and running.

Edit: also to answer your question of what age your levels would be normal there are charts you could look online but I would say those levels would be good for maybe a 45 to 60 -year-old man.

 

[Tarmagoyf]

Order female hormone panel. Then when inputting personal info, check male. The draw station you chose (where they take the blood samples) does not care one way or the other. Pay on Web site. Site will email you link to form. Print form. Take form to draw station. If they ask about insurance, just tell them it's prepaid. The form says so, but they don't see it often and may ask. They suck a bunch of blood. A week later email will come with link to Web site for results. No one sees them but you.

Report back here. Don't panic.

Hey buddy got my blood test in what's your Thoughts on what I should do

https://imgur.com/a/eaCk3

 

[Tarmagoyf]

Ok awesome thanks so much for all of your advice I'd be totally lost without your help. What would you suggest my PCT consist of? Clomid, nolva, HCG?

Well you're low but you could be a lot worse. It really varies person-to-person with your level someone could feel great and then the next person could have symptoms. I myself have symptoms at those numbers as well and I started TRT at 33

First option you could try and run another post cycle therapy 4weeks and wait two weeks after you finish and get blood work again. That might help the testes wake up and produce more testosterone. I wouldn't freak out yet because there's plenty of people that have had to run 2 post cycle therapy to get things back up and running.

Edit: ok also to answer your question of what age your levels would be normal there are charts you could look online but I would say those levels would be good for maybe a 45 to 60 -year-old man.

 

[Tarmagoyf]

How many of you would say screw it and get on TRT? Is it really such a bad thing?

 

[Milton]

How many of you would say screw it and get on TRT? Is it really such a bad thing?

if properly managed and handled no, quality of life can only go up.

 

[Old Duffer]

My numbers looked very much like yours when I got fed up and went on trt, except my test was like 170! Yes, you are low but not WAY LOW.

Your low E2 may be causing some of your symptoms also. What level works best there is way different for different folks tho.

If it was me, I'd follow advise like this,

"Doing another restart is the same as PCT.

If LH and Testosterone are low:
Clomaphine @25mg Monday, Wednesday, Friday for 3 months. Blood tests 6 weeks later. ...."

If your next labs shows no improvement or even lower test, then get on the needle. (Trt) don't give up on your natty system tho without a fight.

Btw: you lost your gains because you lost your motivation and intensity. This should be one of the thousand warnings about blasting. For some personalities, going from blast dose test to natty (low natty in your case) can bring on depression and anxiety. You've come off a powerful high. There's gonna be withdrawal. Now you are freaking out about test levels that are double my natty levels. Letting this get inside your head will mess you up even worse. Fight that. Stress hormones. Cortisol. Etc. Low energy feeds depression and depression feeds inactivity and both lower natty test!

 

[Tarmagoyf]

Dude, anxiety and depression, you got that right! I'd. Cry like a little pussy for prob two months after my last injection while my girlfriend held me, not sobs, hard crying, and I didn't even have a fucking reason to be upset! I've been going hard in the gym this week because I'm just like fuck this it's not beating me! But I'll be honest this is the first week I haven't half assed it since I was on the juice. But it's all in my mind I'm forcing myself to work hard, I definitely don't feel like it. While I'm at work and when I get off work I'm just dead man, and my girlfriend is a fitness girl she has a banging body and I just barely desire sex.. like I desire it but I'm so tired it's tough to make it any good, and that's definitely not my normal self lol.. idk I just want to feel better man.. OK so enough with my rant -

I need to take clomid M W F for 3 months?? That's a long ass time but you guys are the experts I'm clueless. Do I need to take any other drugs with it like HCG or anything? Can I take blood test while I'm on to see if it's working or doing anything, or will nothing be accurate until after the pct? Will I ever be able to juice again or will that end in disaster? If you are on TRT, can you do some sort of "cycle" or supplement your TRT with more test for a bigger boost or something? I know I'm asking a lot but this will also be good for other members, I'm sure I'm not the only goof out there to fuck themselves up. I know one thing, I'll never play with my body again without getting blood test to monitor what the hell is going on! Thank you guys all so much again for your help it has eased my mind so much, you could probably tell I was spazzing tf out. I wish there was some way I could repay you, takes good people to help total strangers Without expecting anything in return!

My numbers looked very much like yours when I got fed up and went on trt, except my test was like 170! Yes, you are low but not WAY LOW.

Your low E2 may be causing some of your symptoms also. What level works best there is way different for different folks tho.

If it was me, I'd follow advise like this,

"Doing another restart is the same as PCT.

If LH and Testosterone are low:
Clomaphine @25mg Monday, Wednesday, Friday for 3 months. Blood tests 6 weeks later. ...."

If your next labs shows no improvement or even lower test, then get on the needle. (Trt) don't give up on your natty system tho without a fight.

Btw: you lost your gains because you lost your motivation and intensity. This should be one of the thousand warnings about blasting. For some personalities, going from blast dose test to natty (low natty in your case) can bring on depression and anxiety. You've come off a powerful high. There's gonna be withdrawal. Now you are freaking out about test levels that are double my natty levels. Letting this get inside your head will mess you up even worse. Fight that. Stress hormones. Cortisol. Etc. Low energy feeds depression and depression feeds inactivity and both lower natty test!

 

[Old Duffer]

I'm not a pct expert cuz on trt, I don't have to do it. I just blast and cruise. Search 'blast and cruise'. But even that's not without its own difficulties. I've been on that emotional (and sexual) rollercoaster too while trying to learn what levels work best for me. It's experimenting on your own body and mind. Risky business!

Search here for that emergency restart protocol. (Or maybe someone will pipe up here with the link) try it is all I'm saying. If it don't work, then your direction is clear. 'Normal female test panel' will not work on pct. You have to order the more expensive tests. Sensitive E2 and Lc/ms test package.

Can you ever do another cycle?:
Can you handle the possibility that you may never recover? Can you rein in the emotions? The possible aggression? Possible anger? The sexual sides, both increase and decrease? You may go from zero interest dude to effing everything in site right down to your damp shower towel! If you value your relationship, can you keep it together? Can you commit to the bloodwork? The REQUIRED blood donations?

And then deeper than most want to go: to thine own self be true. Can you admit if you have predispositions; depressive tendency, anger issues, addictive behaviors, self-destructive tendency? Some cycles will amplify your personality SIGNIFICANTLY!

This is what it means to responsibly cycle. Know yourself. Know the risks. Accept the consequences.

 

[Strong Man]

Ok awesome thanks so much for all of your advice I'd be totally lost without your help. What would you suggest my PCT consist of? Clomid, nolva, HCG?

No problem bro! I would stick with Clomid, nolva but NO HCG. What was your dose for last pct??

How many of you would say screw it and get on TRT? Is it really such a bad thing?

Well my numbers were similar and I decided to go with TRT. I also have some other health issues that I believe was contributing to it so that's why I made my decision. It's a lifelong decision to go TRT so make sure you ready for that.

 

[Gainjin260]

How many of you would say screw it and get on TRT? Is it really such a bad thing?

Better off if you can get your HPTA functioning on its own again.

 

[Tarmagoyf]

Better off if you can get your HPTA functioning on its own again.

Hey Gainjin or anyone else, what drugs/dosages should I take for my PCT? Should I just go to the doctor again and see what they tell me? Any advice is appreciated I'm kind of at a roadblock in the process.

 

[Milton]

Hey Gainjin or anyone else, what drugs/dosages should I take for my PCT? Should I just go to the doctor again and see what they tell me? Any advice is appreciated I'm kind of at a roadblock in the process.

you need to do your own HW and read if you have to ask what drugs to do for your pct http://www.steroidology.com/forum/a...ycling-beginners-guide-safe-androgen-use.html

 

[Gainjin260]

Hey Gainjin or anyone else, what drugs/dosages should I take for my PCT? Should I just go to the doctor again and see what they tell me? Any advice is appreciated I'm kind of at a roadblock in the process.

C'mon dude. You've already started a thread about restart and I've already told you I don't do pct bc I'm on TRT.

 

[Tarmagoyf]

I know what drugs are used for a typical PCT but I didn't know if it would be different considering what my blood test are, the situation I'm in, and since it is a Restart... no need to be rude I'm just trying to figure out what to do.

 

[Strong Man]

I know what drugs are used for a typical PCT but I didn't know if it would be different considering what my blood test are

Yes I was trying to help you on your first thread and then you made two other thread so I started to give up but I don't want to leave you hanging. If you look back on your first post I ask you a question about your last post cycle therapy so I could give you good information about your new PCT. So I will ask you again what was your last protocol for PCT. I need to know dosages