Bloodwork Result AI Question

[James David Manning]

greetings,


i am a 54 year old who has been on 200mg per week of cyp since july, 2012. during that time i have done three tren/prop/mast blasts of 350mg per week. i've attached my latest blood work which was done eight weeks after my last blast.

my question is regarding AI. i am pretty sensitive with Ai's and normally take .5mg twice a week during my blasts, but try to stay away from it during my cruises as it always raises my lipid panel. as you can see from my results, my estradiol is high at 67.3. but with my test being so high, do you think i really need an AI right now? and if i should, perhaps .25 twice weekly? i feel fine otherwise. any suggestions welcome.

 

[Megatron28]

Since your blast is over your E2 should be back too where it is normally during a cruise. As should your TT. Are you sure you still aren't taking something? Or are you using a different brand of test?

Have you tried DIM + Zinc for you E2? If that isn't enough Aromasin would be an AI option asnit doesn't hose your lipids.

 

[SoHo]

how much testosterone were you on when those bloods were taken? with test levels like that your e2 levels won't only be slightly elevated, but significantly. if you wanted to keep your test in the optimal-normal range with 125-150mg high quality test cyp a week, your body will need a tiny bit of estrogen tweaking and i think that's the only situation where DIM+Zinc would actually work, as megatron stated.

however if you want to keep your testosterone at that level or at least 1000, you're definitely going to need a real AI. and if you're worried about your lipids go with Aromasin.

 

[James David Manning]

Since your blast is over your E2 should be back too where it is normally during a cruise. As should your TT. Are you sure you still aren't taking something? Or are you using a different brand of test?

Have you tried DIM + Zinc for you E2? If that isn't enough Aromasin would be an AI option asnit doesn't hose your lipids.

nope, on nothing else.

TBH, when i started TRT protocol on my own in 2012 i was using 250mg of UGL test E, and then i would switch to test p for my blasts. i've had a script for for test c for about a year and a half, and that's when i dropped the dosage to 200. but for my latest 12 week blast, i used UGL test p. then back to the script cyp afterwards.

thanks for the suggestions. anything that would help lower my e2 without messing with my lipids is exactly what i'm looking for.

 

[James David Manning]

how much testosterone were you on when those bloods were taken? with test levels like that your e2 levels won't only be slightly elevated, but significantly. if you wanted to keep your test in the optimal-normal range with 125-150mg high quality test cyp a week, your body will need a tiny bit of estrogen tweaking and i think that's the only situation where DIM+Zinc would actually work, as megatron stated.

however if you want to keep your testosterone at that level or at least 1000, you're definitely going to need a real AI. and if you're worried about your lipids go with Aromasin.

i was typing my response when you posted...as i state above, 200mg of pharmacy grade cyp. the blood was drawn one day after my pin.

so it looks like i should look into aromasin then...i've been using anastrozole. would .25 twice a week do the trick you think? thank you for your response.

 

[SoHo]

i was typing my response when you posted...as i state above, 200mg of pharmacy grade cyp. the blood was drawn one day after my pin.

so it looks like i should look into aromasin then...i've been using anastrozole. would .25 twice a week do the trick you think? thank you for your response.

>1500ng/dl testosterone at 200mg a week is amazing! wow.

for those numbers, .25mg twice a week of anastrozole MIGHT do the trick. i dont know the exact number for you (at 200mg), but for me, 500mg a week puts me at around 2500-2800, and .25mg anastrozole EOD does the trick for me.

get some pharmacy grade aromasin, and play around with the dosages. with numbers like yours i think 12.5mg EOD would keep you in check but who knows, everyone's body works so differently. try it out. good luck

 

[rikardo82]

why not just lower Cyp dosage ? If 200mg put you 1500+ then use 100-120mg then you will be in range and with no E2 issues.

 

[Teutonic]

OP I m 51 and notorious for little or no ancillaries but my little blasts are low dose and 6 weeks in length. In a month all my levels are good to go. I don t mind water retention it looks good in a shirt. And I know my bordering on hyper tension is from the water and the tren. My gp gave me a small Dixie cup of bp pills for when it goes over acceptable red line limit that I set for myself.

Mega and Gill gave u some good stuff.

 

[SoHo]

question for the OP: is this test prescribed by a doctor? if so, who the hell is your doctor?! and if not, who makes that superior test that 200mg puts you at >1500.. god damn!!!
because as far as i know, no TRT doctor will ever put his patient at test levels that high. usually, those HRT doctors will just get their patient at a normal level, like 600-700.

 

[Teutonic]

The question remains the same OP. My trt of 100 test c has me high 7 low 8 s. 150 has me cracking 1k. With my monster cycle of 200 test..it s listed..500 total of 2 tests and I don t know as I don t care...but think it s was 22-25oo ish or more
( my doc s fresh faced nurse came in grinning with my file followed by doc. Upon her leaving he said she thought my ball s must be cue balls. We cracked up..they are much closer to NO balls)

 

[James David Manning]

question for the OP: is this test prescribed by a doctor? if so, who the hell is your doctor?! and if not, who makes that superior test that 200mg puts you at >1500.. god damn!!!
because as far as i know, no TRT doctor will ever put his patient at test levels that high. usually, those HRT doctors will just get their patient at a normal level, like 600-700.

The question remains the same OP. My trt of 100 test c has me high 7 low 8 s. 150 has me cracking 1k. With my monster cycle of 200 test..it s listed..500 total of 2 tests and I don t know as I don t care...but think it s was 22-25oo ish or more
( my doc s fresh faced nurse came in grinning with my file followed by doc. Upon her leaving he said she thought my ball s must be cue balls. We cracked up..they are much closer to NO balls)

yes, doctor prescribed. it says mtd by hikma farmaceutica in portugal and distributed by watson pharma out of california. i get it from walgreens for $10 per 10cc vial through insurance.

as far as my doctor, i just got extremely lucky. he's a urologist, not a TRT doctor. i went in for a peeing issue, and since i knew they'd be doing bloodwork (that time it was the day before a pin and i came back in the 900's i believe), i let him know i was taking test on my own, and that i self monitored with regular bw and blood donations. he asked me why, and i told him the truth... for a better quality of life (having my beautiful 23 yr old gf with me i'm sure helped to prove my case lol). he agreed, and promptly asked me if i wanted a script for it. easy as that.

 

[anzel]

You have a 23 yr old girlfriend and a script that cost you 10 bucks........... damn you!

 

[Megatron28]

You have a 23 yr old girlfriend and a script that cost you 10 bucks........... damn you!

I would settle for either one of those.

 

[SJC]

>1500ng/dl testosterone at 200mg a week is amazing! wow.

for those numbers, .25mg twice a week of anastrozole MIGHT do the trick. i dont know the exact number for you (at 200mg), but for me, 500mg a week puts me at around 2500-2800, and .25mg anastrozole EOD does the trick for me.

get some pharmacy grade aromasin, and play around with the dosages. with numbers like yours i think 12.5mg EOD would keep you in check but who knows, everyone's body works so differently. try it out. good luck

What dose did you pin? One day after a shot and having that high of a T level isnt that impressive. When I started TRT a couple years ago I took a shot of 100mg in the AM and the next morning went and got blood work. My level was 1056 of pharm grade.

That being said I would throw in some stane at about 12.5mg or so eod.