Books VS Steroidology

[Mani]

Alright so I wanna see what you guys say to this.

Before i looked to online forums i got all my information from books. cycles, steroid descriptions etc.

From this forum a couple things ive learned is test should be the base of every cycle, nolvadex and deca do not mix, tren and deca no not mix, AI's should always be onhand etc.

When i read books though its like a whole different world. Cycles show deca and tren in the same cycle, deca and nolvadex ran together, and test is definitely not a part of every cycle.

these are not old books either, 4-6 years. Anabolics 2006, Laymans guide 1-3 etc.

I just want to see what you guys think of this because someone in this forum told me to drop everything i know and start learning all over again in this forum..

 

[Blondie_Bombshell]

I like a combination of the two. Books & forums.

 

[jimbo79]

Do the authors have expierience using AAS? Because many Bros have here, and I wouldn't question there knowledge.

 

[DragonRider]

Personally, I believe test should be the base of any cycle, but I have also had great success running tren and deca along with my test.

 

[Dreaded Pirate Roberts]

The truth is most books are out dated. Not using Tren and deca together is just common sense. It focuses on the recovery angle. It's also a good way to keep from needing a bra. The science has moved along from focusing on growth to efficient growth that you can keep.
It's interesting I heard of someone front loading a cycle a few weeks back. Front load was out dated in 2005.

There is a lot of good knowledge in Books but for up to date info you should bring your questions to the forum. When you get an answer to your questions you should follow it with more questions. Why and what is your experience. The staff do a very good job of filtering bad info but we don't see everything in our first pass.

Beware of the self proclaimed guru. I've seen a few guys pop up and 3 month later they are experts. Guys that have been very well liked...Biggin just to mention one. This isn't to run him down I liked the guy. He was amusing

 

[Mani]

2006 is only 4 years ago, i can't see that being too outdated...

yes everyone on here has been very helpful in this forum its just looking at 2 different perspectives.

Mick Hart is the author of the laymans guide series, yes a very experienced body builder, and anabolics 2006 was written by William Llewellyn. All information in that one was gathered from sources including textbooks, medical journals, and pharmaceutical reports, as well as athletes, steroid distributors, and medical experts.

I've gotten cycles from these books and the author says they are great and very safe and explains, then when i post the cycle on here it gets shot down horribly..so its kinda interesting to see advice you have for me

 

[I_feel_nothing]

You are going to get safer cycles (and likely better cycles) from the board(s).

Can you run tren and deca together? Absolutely.

Will you die?
No.

Is there at least a 30ish% chance you could end up with bitch tits?
Yes.

All I'm saying is that there are guys out there who CAN run tren and deca together without problem, BUT there is a good enough chunk of the population that can't w/o awful side effects, so it's safer not to try at all...

A book is mostly going to tell you what has worked for the guy writing the book and his circle of friends.

Online, you get filtered and re-filtered info from thousands of users, so you end up with information that will work and is safe for a much larger chunk of the population. feel me? I hope that made sense, cuz it did in my brain.

(obviously my %'s are made up, just making a point)

 

[Miss Muscle]

Books are a viewpoint from one or two authors. Forums are the views and concensus of many.

Unless you really trust the author and his background I think forums might be better. The discussions are as up to date as you will find, and the people share their real-experiences. You get many different points of views.

 

[Greazy-Pickle]

Books are a viewpoint from one or two authors. Forums are the views and concensus of many.

Unless you really trust the author and his background I think forums might be better. The discussions are as up to date as you will find, and the people share their real-experiences. You get many different points of views.

i agree with that 100%.. youve got thousands of opinions from ppl that actually use the gear and not just write about it.. Experience is everything..

 

[JamieOleBoy]

I would choose the forums over the books, especially Steroidology. Here, unlike others, there are a lot of people out here to help you and it's more family, if you ask a stupid question you are more than likely to get a remark that makes you feel stupid but at least they'll tell you what is unsafe and not just tell you to proceed and see what happens. The real life experience that many of these members obtain is just something you won't find elsewhere.

Also the fact that things get outdated would be another reason for going to forums, up to date information...pretty much what everyone else has said already.

 

[drewbolic]

Im reading or have read those books you are talking of and are in constant search for more writing/studys and books on AAS,also I read and ask question here on the forum.I take all this info and I draw my own conclusions.
And IMO Mick Hart is a very well established body builder and BB coach but his book was unimpressive with no information that can be back with a medical study.It was just full with his opinions.
As for tren and deca in the same cycle...think about it,Im sure it can be used with success but using two 19-nor compounds in the same cycle is asking server prolactin sides.Plausible not logical IMO.
So my answer to your question is take all the information you gather from book and info here,and if you have a pretty good understanding of AAS you can draw your own conclusion. Neither is form is superior.

 

[I_feel_nothing]

Um... yes, as myself and MM just pointed out, the forums are superior overall.

 

[dialtone]

Books are a viewpoint from one or two authors. Forums are the views and concensus of many.

Unless you really trust the author and his background I think forums might be better. The discussions are as up to date as you will find, and the people share their real-experiences. You get many different points of views.

very well put and i completely agree.

 

[Blondie_Bombshell]

Im reading or have read those books you are talking of and are in constant search for more writing/studys and books on AAS,also I read and ask question here on the forum.I take all this info and I draw my own conclusions.
And IMO Mick Hart is a very well established body builder and BB coach but his book was unimpressive with no information that can be back with a medical study.It was just full with his opinions.
As for tren and deca in the same cycle...think about it,Im sure it can be used with success but using two 19-nor compounds in the same cycle is asking server prolactin sides.Plausible not logical IMO.
So my answer to your question is take all the information you gather from book and info here,and if you have a pretty good understanding of AAS you can draw your own conclusion. Neither is form is superior.

Right on. Research and facts from books. Personal experience from forums.