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Hey guys brand new to this forum...any and all help appreciated looking for as much knowledge as I can get before I start my first cycle...any tips??
 
32 , 180lbs , been natural whole life but never was able to get where I wanted...ready to start my first cycle..going in to this totally blind and scared of being scammed...just gonna stick around here for a while and take in what the vets have to say just like it says on the newbie rules lol
 
ya bud you read all the stickys above the forum? I would love to just throw it out there for ya but a lil knowledge will do ya better
 
read em all so I know there is no asking for sources so Im gonna just stick around and make sure my money goes to the right place..def cant afford to get ripped off..
 
so you need no advice on pct , Aromatase inhibitor (AI) or doses or diet or proper techniques just a source?
 
no any advice is appreciated..still not sure exactly what Im looking for but i def wanna bulk up
 
test only first cycle man, 500 min 10 to 12 weeks an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) on hand I like adex post cycle therapy (pct) clomid, nolva Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) your choice first cycle I disagree but others dont.
 
wow bro you totally lost me...speak to me like Im an idiot..lol...because when it comes to cycles Im lost
 
Welcome to the ology man there are plenty of threads talking about how to keep from getting scammed and what to look and check for to make sure a source is legit ill look for the thread that helped me out a long time ago to find a source and if I can find it i will post it for you
 
thankx man thatll work...Im sure i will catch up to the ology man Im just trying to break it down now...lol
 
500mg of test a week 10 to 12 weeks
ai of adex .25 eod
post cycle therapy (pct) of nolva clomid
cannot tell you how soon to start post cycle therapy (pct) until you pick ester of test
 
balboa is right, test only cycle is good for first cycle, 250mg, 2 times A week , for 10 to 12 week , than you stop for 2 -3 weeks if its test -e or -c 2 weeks , if you taming sus 3 weeks , than start you pct
 
Ai he means aromatase inhibitor, so your estrogen doesn't give you sides, and post cycle therapy (pct) he mean post cycle therapy, to get your nutts back in order and keep your body in a favorable homeostasis. When you take outside test, your balls can an will stop doing it themselves, so when you stop a cycle, you want them up and running ASAP, and to keep your money and works worth of gains. Sort of, I'm sure someone else can explain better than I. And welcome.
 
Yes what they all said ... bloodwork, workouts on point, and most importantly diet in check (read 3J's sticky in the diet forum or better yet spend the $ and have him get you right it will maximize every penny you spend on gear)

This is what everyone's first cycle should be... but you will not keep your gains unless you have first maximized your natural potential (few of us rarely reach this point) by learning how to eat, how to workout, and how to rest!

I wish someone had sat me down and shown me this when I first started (not that I would have listened) because it would have helped me tremendously!

Testosterone only for your first cycle because it is the base for all cycles (due to the shutdown of your natural testosterone) and you want to see how you will react to it. You will want to know what sides, if any, you are prone to for example: if you are DHT sensitive (hair loss can be avoided with finasteride), prone to acne (usually a sign of up and down hormones or inconsistent levels of hormones in your body caused by not injecting at the right time), hold a ton of water (this can be usually be controlled by limiting salt intake as well as taking an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) like arimedex .25mg every other Day (eod), insomnia, anger issues (largely urban myth), etc. Knowing what sides you are prone to will help you make good decisions about future cycles.

Now you have to choose which type of Testosterone that you will start with by going to the steroid profile section here and reading up on each type. Testosterone is testosterone the only difference is the ester attached to it which basically makes it take longer to get into and out of your system. The most common types are Test cypionate, enanthate, or propionate. Test E and C are long esters (c slightly longer than E) that will take 2-3 weeks to kick in and therefore you will start post cycle therapy (pct) 2 weeks after last pin. Also Test E and C are best split into two shots Mon and Thurs for a total of 500mg per week to keep blood levels consistent to avoid some sides associated with inconsistent blood levels. Test Prop is a faster acting requiring at least EOD pinning to keep blood levels consistent which sometimes turns new guys off. Prop is famous for being a little painful, not bad, but you will feel it within days and should start post cycle therapy (pct) 7 days after last inject.

post cycle therapy (pct) (Post Cycle Therapy) is not optional do not start a cycle with out post cycle therapy (pct) and Aromatase inhibitor (AI) in hand (because there is no guarantee it will be available when you need it) you do not want your natural test shut down for a long period of time!! post cycle therapy (pct) is to get your natural test levels back up to normal range as quickly as possible. During the cycle your body senses the levels of test and signals the testes to stop producing causing your balls to shrink (HCG 250iu twice a week will help this) Standard post cycle therapy (pct) begins a certain amount of time after your last pin (according to the ester) the standard is clomid 50/50/50/50 (4 weeks 50mg per day) nolvadex 40/40/20/20 (40mg per day 2 weeks then 20mg per day 2 weeks)
I personally like to do a blast of Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) for at least 7 days (10 if using a long ester) after last inject of 2000iu/day but this may be overkill.
 
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