Bulk than cut !

ha ha friggin funny and right. Eat more on a cycle the gear helps protein synthesis and you gain muscle. Eat less and the gear helps you retain your current muscle. Besides drying out (reducing your water) there is no cutting gear
 
100 percent correct.
..given the lack of anything pertinant in reference to wtf...
like cycle experience,
height
weight training etc..
age

Sound s like a short cut is sought out by a yung un..who want s a magic wand in the shape of a pin filled with pixxey dust...

LOLOL..
 
Man if you are a high body fat I would def cut first. Been there done that. If you are high bf and try to bulk you will gain plenty of fat and it's that much harder to lose all that fat while trying to maintain that lean mass. Cut first! And dont use aas lol
 
100 percent correct.
..given the lack of anything pertinant in reference to wtf...
like cycle experience,
height
weight training etc..
age

Sound s like a short cut is sought out by a yung un..who want s a magic wand in the shape of a pin filled with pixxey dust...

LOLOL..


Im thinking thats the case here.
hope not
 
Ok nice comments :D i like jokes :P was a stupid ideea of me to make a fast post to get some infos in too this subject i was in a hurry because i went to work :P but here i go il explain everything i wanna do and why am i doing it and all infos in too it .

6 M ago i was in the best shape of my life at 74 kg 172 cm i was a fitness trainer so like every day in the week train eat train eat and sleep :P but now is diferent and i need help or i dont that is not me to decide that is why i did start this post :

SO bio:

24 y / 172 cm / atm 77 kg BF 16%

I kinda mess `up my life because i moved to germany and i had a hard time here finding a job and so on ... now is not that easy also but il try to bust my ass to do it all correct

Thing is i am waking` up at 9 in the morning and at 10 im going to work ... then at 14:00 i have free time till 17:10 when im going again to work and im at work till 23 :00 or 23:30 depends sometime il come faster homer like 22:00

I am training when im free from 14:00 to 17:00 arrowd 1 : 30 2 h

I want to start a cycle again i am training hard at gym and i kinda wanna go to the next lvl again i want to add abit mass then cUt

I know alot of u will say why cut last why not first and alot of u will have diferent things to add but here il explain why and what i want and il be wery happy to see some twinks from u or add`s

I want to run 10 Weeks Susta 250 balkan + 6 weeks danabol tablet` 10 mg
I want to take 2 susta shot EW and the danabol il start the first 4 weeks in the same time with the susta up down cycle 10/20/30/20/10 something like it il do the mats for 4 weeks later and il let 2 3 weeks at the end of the cycle same tipe but il do from high to low 30/20/10

The post cycle therapy (pct) will be tamoxifen 10/20/20/10 ed/for 4 weeks
and Clomid 25/50/50/25 also ed for 4 weeks

But this is not the only thing il try i did say BULK / CUT cycle so where is the cut ???

In the last 2 Weeks from the susta` and in the same time the dana will be in also il start trow in Clen for 6 Weeks 0.04 and il make it also piramid` il start with 2 pills per day for 4 days then every 4 days il add 1 more something like 2 2 2 2 3 3 3 as u can see this is a week 7 days and now it goes 3 4 4 4 4 5 5 5 5 4 4 4 4 3 3 3 3 2 2 2 2 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 so here i did explain a 5 weeks` but depends on what will the side effect be from clen because is a strong` mf` and i try`d it before

Now u guys have all that u need and now u can flame :D or f me up :) i wont mid :P but something is not there the diet ??

Diet i was thinking in this way :::::

I want to add powerfull watter re` susta ye? and alot of u will say EAT EAT EAT alot of food and meat and so on but no one knows my body am i correct? no one can tell to another person u dont need to do that because is not good ( ye u can say that but BUT mb just mb this is the best thing for him and that guy has the max prog` doing it that way ? who are u to tell him that or to judge him ? no ? am im not correct? ok im sry for jumping to another subject but il continue` with diet

DIET meals : ( i dnt know the coorect protein carbo and so on so fell free to make the math )


1 10 in the morning 4 white eggs with 100G oatmeal
2 13:00 i will take a proteine shake 2 cups and il take all my prework` supliments like vitamic C B / Creatine mono./Omega 3 and fish oil and cal / mag / zinc so on im doing this because il go to train in 1:10 H ( mb il drink them abit later like 13:30
3 16:00 il come home and il drink a 2 cup protein wanna add those 2 protein shakes are concentration of protein` high not carb optimum nutrition whey`
4 16:30 here is abit >???? because i dont know if im doing it ok or wrong with the time is it too long or too litle to get my meal ?? IL eat 1/2 cup rice with srimps the red fishis (200g ) + broco
5 19:00 Rice 1/2 with 200g Chiken brest + broco
6 21:00 Green salat with rich` fish in protein ton` or some other ones but im eating ton
7 When im coming home that depends 22:00 23 :00 il get 1 cup of protein with abit carbo and go to sleep
(im adding olive oil virgin one 1 litle cup ed`and alot of fruct like bananas / oranges / appels _

So anyone that can say something to add or help ? :D I forgot to add im doing bulk cut ye? but i do it this way with the bulk because i want to add lean muscle not fat that is why im not eathing alot of crap Thanx all
 
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When guys post weight in Kg's and stones and what not, I just stop reading.

You sir, must be from one of them southern states. You sir, are the perfect representative of the ignorant american culture. Wake up dude, you know outside of the US border there is a whole new world. Isn't so crazy to believe that most Americans aren't educated about the world around them... look in an american class room? You see a USA map... look in a classroom around the world... and you see a world map. You sir, need to dig your head out of your ass and except that America is not the world and that other cultures, educational systems, countries, provinces, territories exist.. your not the center of the world as your raised to believe.. with a bit of real education outside the southern half of the states you'd get the education to do a quick conversion of kg or st to lbs... no instead you just fluff your feather, bulk your chest and walk away from an intelligent conversation.. because hey... you were raised as an ignorant america.... your a class act bud


now.. if this post pisses off anyone, i apologize in advance... obviously ozzy doesnt represent all americans, just the ignorant ones, of which there are in every society. no offence to the intelligent half of the US.
 
It wasn't a very intelligent conversation to begin with. It included lines such as:

"il come home and il drink a 2 cup protein wanna add those 2 protein shakes are concentration of protein` high not carb optimum nutrition whey`
4 16:30 here is abit >???? because i dont know if im doing it ok or wrong with the time is it too long or too litle to get my meal ?? IL eat 1/2 cup rice with srimps the red fishis (200g ) + broco"

Now, I'm not claiming to be the smartest man in America but that does not appear to be a very "intelligent" conversation to begin with regardless of nationality...
 
It wasn't a very intelligent conversation to begin with. It included lines such as:

"il come home and il drink a 2 cup protein wanna add those 2 protein shakes are concentration of protein` high not carb optimum nutrition whey`
4 16:30 here is abit >???? because i dont know if im doing it ok or wrong with the time is it too long or too litle to get my meal ?? IL eat 1/2 cup rice with srimps the red fishis (200g ) + broco"

Now, I'm not claiming to be the smartest man in America but that does not appear to be a very "intelligent" conversation to begin with regardless of nationality...

LMFAO!!! :insane:
 
You sir, must be from one of them southern states. You sir, are the perfect representative of the ignorant american culture. Wake up dude, you know outside of the US border there is a whole new world. Isn't so crazy to believe that most Americans aren't educated about the world around them... look in an american class room? You see a USA map... look in a classroom around the world... and you see a world map. You sir, need to dig your head out of your ass and except that America is not the world and that other cultures, educational systems, countries, provinces, territories exist.. your not the center of the world as your raised to believe.. with a bit of real education outside the southern half of the states you'd get the education to do a quick conversion of kg or st to lbs... no instead you just fluff your feather, bulk your chest and walk away from an intelligent conversation.. because hey... you were raised as an ignorant america.... your a class act bud


now.. if this post pisses off anyone, i apologize in advance... obviously ozzy doesnt represent all americans, just the ignorant ones, of which there are in every society. no offence to the intelligent half of the US.

instead of writing all that shit why not just convert the numbers ?
 
instead of writing all that shit why not just convert the numbers ?

Give a man a fish, feed him for a day.. teach the man to.. no nevermind, he'd still be ignorant of the world around him. It's too bad math couldn't solve ignorance. Besides, he'd need someone converting all of the numbers in every thread he reads where someone displays their own countries system.
 
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