C-Bino's Gyno Reversal, Yah or Nay?

[My_Pitch27]

Hi Guys,
Thanks for reading my post...

So I'm debating on a few different ideas on how to get rid of some minor gyno. The symptoms have included; tenderness, sensitive nipples, puffy nipples, fat deposits in the lower and inner region of chest, along with very small lumps under the nipple (right pec is worse than the left).

My goal is to reduce the size of the lump as much as possible and destroy whatever gland development has occurred. I will be implementing a strict diet and increase my cardio immensely, so basically I'm going on a cutting phase!

I've been taking Tamoxifen 40mg/day for quite some time now (3 weeks) and I'm approaching the third month from my first initial notation of the gyno (April 1st was when it struck). So, I'm running out of time to catch this as I hear anything past 1 year and it's in there for good. Only the knife will remove it.

Here are a few treatments plans that I'm debating and I would like to hear from people who have experience reversing gyno.

Treatment 1:
Continue Tamoixfen 40mg/day for 1 -2 months then taper down

Treatment 2:
Continue Tamoixfen 20mg/day (taken in the a.m.) while implementing C-Bino's Gyno Reversal which is the letro (taken in the p.m.) taper up, stay there for 3-4 weeks, then taper down slowly (Letro purchased from RUI) and then tamoxifen to avoid letro rebound at 40/20/20/10/10
C-Bino Letro Protocol:
Day 1 .5mg letro
Day 2 1.0mg letro
Day 3 1.5mg letro
Day 4 2.0mg letro
Day 5 2.5mg letro

Hold at 2.5mg letro for 2-4 weeks, or once lump is gone, then stay an additional 5 days followed by a slow taper...

Day 1 2.5mg letro
Day 2 2.0mg letro
Day 3 2.0mg letro
Day 4 1.5mg letro
Day 5 1.5mg letro
Day 6 1.0mg letro
Day 7 1.0mg letro
Day 8 .5mg letro
Day 9 .5mg letro
Day 10 .25mg letro
Day 11 .25mg letro w/20mg Tamoxifen, start Tamoxifen rebound protocol.



Treatment 3:
Drop Tamoxifen
Start Raloxifen (from RUI) 60mg/day for 1-3 months

Thanks for all that respond....
If you've had experience and or success with reversals, please chime in...

 

[Austinite]

I don't think anyone here knows who C-Bino is... But you know my thoughts on this.

 

[My_Pitch27]

Good point. I'll add in the protocol for c-bino.
Your recommendation is the ralox only, correct?

I don't think anyone here knows who C-Bino is... But you know my thoughts on this.

 

[Austinite]

^ Correct.

 

[My_Pitch27]

bump

 

[halfwit]

^ Correct.

You've found Evista (raloxifene) to be more effective than letro for gyno reversal? I've seen this pop up a few times, but never really heard the reasoning behind it or how effective it is. I believe you as you definitely have shown your knowledge in previous posts, but could you explain this to me? I've been fortunate in that I've never had gyno, so I'm always trying to learn through others on this topic.

 

[Austinite]

You've found Evista (raloxifene) to be more effective than letro for gyno reversal? I've seen this pop up a few times, but never really heard the reasoning behind it or how effective it is. I believe you as you definitely have shown your knowledge in previous posts, but could you explain this to me? I've been fortunate in that I've never had gyno, so I'm always trying to learn through others on this topic.

Similar to Tamox as it binds to the E receptor, except Ralox binds at nearly 10 times the affinity. Because of that powerful effect theres no chance that estrogen will reach a receptor.

Here's a comparison study that might be of interest: http://humupd.oxfordjournals.org/content/6/3/212.full.pdf

I would dose this at 60mg daily until it's gone. 4 weeks and you should see a big difference. Dosing up to 80mg should be fine.

 

[halfwit]

Similar to Tamox as it binds to the E receptor, except Ralox binds at nearly 10 times the affinity. Because of that powerful effect theres no chance that estrogen will reach a receptor.

Here's a comparison study that might be of interest: http://humupd.oxfordjournals.org/content/6/3/212.full.pdf

I would dose this at 60mg daily until it's gone. 4 weeks and you should see a big difference. Dosing up to 80mg should be fine.

Interesting, it also appears to be less harmful to the body too. Great info! Now you're stating to use this in conjunction WITH letrozole, or as a sole means of reversal? I'd rep you again if I could, but I gotta spread it around some more.

 

[Austinite]

Solely.

 

[halfwit]

Solely.

Really? What do you do about the increase of estrogen while on cycle though? Or is it safe to assume you advocate the continued usage of the "normal" Aromatase inhibitor (AI) one would be on while on cycle?

 

[Austinite]

Really? What do you do about the increase of estrogen while on cycle though? Or is it safe to assume you advocate the continued usage of the "normal" Aromatase inhibitor (AI) one would be on while on cycle?

Oh. Sorry, I totally misunderstood. I thought you meant in combination with another serm. Yes, I recommend Aromatase inhibitor (AI), just not Letro. Stupid me didn't read your entire post.

 

[halfwit]

Oh. Sorry, I totally misunderstood. I thought you meant in combination with another serm. Yes, I recommend Aromatase inhibitor (AI), just not Letro. Stupid me didn't read your entire post.

Ohhh, okay. I was dumbfounded as I had been picturing crazy rebound once the SERM use discontinued. Thanks for the information!

 

[My_Pitch27]

I got a lil lost following this... So you do recommend an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) with raloxifene? Off cycle?

Oh. Sorry, I totally misunderstood. I thought you meant in combination with another serm. Yes, I recommend Aromatase inhibitor (AI), just not Letro. Stupid me didn't read your entire post.

 

[Austinite]

If you're on cycle, use Aromatase inhibitor (AI), if you're not on cycle, it's in your best interest to get bloodwork done to see if you need an Aromatase inhibitor (AI), otherwise you'll crush your E2. Off cycle is a guessing game without blood work.

 

[My_Pitch27]

I had blood work done on the 5/17/13 (one week post PCT) and it came back at 97! range was <39.
I had blood work again yesterday, so I'll find out next week where I stand.

If you're on cycle, use Aromatase inhibitor (AI), if you're not on cycle, it's in your best interest to get bloodwork done to see if you need an Aromatase inhibitor (AI), otherwise you'll crush your E2. Off cycle is a guessing game without blood work.

 

[Austinite]

^ keep us posted man. Good job getting panels. Is that a sensitive assay?

 

[My_Pitch27]

It was estradiol, is that sensitive?

^ keep us posted man. Good job getting panels. Is that a sensitive assay?

 

[Austinite]

No. You have to request a sensitive assay.

 

[ForeverAesthetic]

Similar to Tamox as it binds to the E receptor, except Ralox binds at nearly 10 times the affinity. Because of that powerful effect theres no chance that estrogen will reach a receptor.

Here's a comparison study that might be of interest: http://humupd.oxfordjournals.org/content/6/3/212.full.pdf

I would dose this at 60mg daily until it's gone. 4 weeks and you should see a big difference. Dosing up to 80mg should be fine.

Hey Austinite. So does this Ralox work even after gyno has been set in for a few months? I've got mild gyno such as the one the OP is listing. But I don't really know much about Ralox.

 

[Austinite]

Hey Austinite. So does this Ralox work even after gyno has been set in for a few months? I've got mild gyno such as the one the OP is listing. But I don't really know much about Ralox.

It should. If you don't see improvement in 4 to 6 weeks chances are you might need surgery.