can anyone advise about an anavar and HGH cycle please?

[stargirl]

Hi!

I posted about this in the main bit of the forum but not had any replies from females so thought i'd ask here.

My last cycle was an anavar-only 20mg daily cycle. I absolutely LOVED the effects. great gains, amazing definition and no sides.

I am having some time off but planning for my next cycle now, and i've been advised that i will need to up my dosage of var because the effects won't be the same next time. as i'm already on the maximum recommended dosage for females, can anyone give experiences of using var over 20mg daily? what were the sides like?

My PT is recommending a test/decca/primo stack for my next cycle but as i am not willing to compromise on any virilization my research has lead me to believe that the above is not a route that is open to me.

Someone on here suggested using the var with HGH as there is no virilization at all and the results are good. So does anyone have any advice on this? Anyone done it? I've heard HGH has to be run for like 6 months before there's an effect - what are the sides? at what point do I bring the var in? and is hgh only available in injectable form? so many questions!!

If anyone can help at all, that would be great!

My stats:

female - 32
72kg (don't know what that is in lbs!)
heavy weights workout 4 days a week/cardio 2 days plus cross training (roller derby)
99% clean diet, no alcohol, no smoking

mon - chest and tri
tues - back and bi
wed - cardio & abs
thurs - legs
fri - lat/traps
sat - rest
sun - cardio & abs

 

[sister]

I have use anavar but only 12,5mg daily. Also I have done one cycle winstrol and that was so much better. I got advice to take 30mg anavar for a day but because it was my first cycle I was very careful, i get little bit good results in the gym and no sides but i think that dosage could have been higher.
I know girls who have taken 30mg and no bad side effects. I think it's ok to take higher dosage. And if i take anavar later I will lift my dosage to 30mg/day. of course you should always check your blood tests that everything it's ok! You can't know what happens if you take higher dosage. I think that always when you take some steroids you just have to accept the sides that maybe come.

 

[Youngblood43]

I think that dosage is a bit higher than wat most people are going to recommend for females unless you are competing in bodybuilding. I would stick with 10-20mg I don't think more than that is necessary, and if u got great results from it last cycle chances are you still will! I don't really increase my dosage on orals..with orals like dbol I run it 50-100mg and it's always just as good don't have to ever increase my dose to get the same results.

And also you are right about not taking ur PT advise. I think that wat ur pt recommended is absolutely absurd

 

[stargirl]

thanks for the advice.

sister, how did you find winstrol? effects/sides?

and youngblood (LOVE your avator pic!!) how was dbol with effects/sides?

 

[sister]

Here is the thread where i told about my cycle steroidology.com/forum/womens-general-discussion-forum/635193-winstrol.html
Like i say only thing that i notice was that my clitoris enlarge and i get very good results in the gym. After the cycle i have now little bit acne but it's ok and i can live with that.

 

[Youngblood43]

Oh I'm not a chick lol. Some of us guys pumped full of hormones just like to have hot chicks as our avatars hahaha.

I wouldn't use dbol. But winstrol on the other hand might be something you could try. But I don't think ur really supposed to do it with out testosterone as the base of ur cycle, and I don't know how women usually dose their test, maybe somebody else with more experience with females could help u put a cycle together. I would just stick with var and a spot on diet and work ur butt off and the results will come. Remember that steroids are only supplements, it the diet, hard work, and consistency that counts!

 

[stargirl]

Oh I'm not a chick lol. Some of us guys pumped full of hormones just like to have hot chicks as our avatars hahaha.

I wouldn't use dbol. But winstrol on the other hand might be something you could try. But I don't think ur really supposed to do it with out testosterone as the base of ur cycle, and I don't know how women usually dose their test, maybe somebody else with more experience with females could help u put a cycle together. I would just stick with Anavar (var) and a spot on diet and work ur butt off and the results will come. Remember that steroids are only supplements, it the diet, hard work, and consistency that counts!

yeah, my diet and workout is totally spot on - that's why i decided to start with the Anavar (var). i bust my ass at the gym 6 days a week and my diet is 100% clean with no smoking, no alcohol, no vices basically!

i was just told that because i was on the daily maximum dosage of Anavar (var) recommended for women (20mg daily) on my last cycle that i would need to increase it for my next cycle or i wouldn't experience the same effects as before. and i don't know what effect that will have. i haven't heard feedback from many women really and i'm concerned about taking the Anavar (var) above the recommended dosage for women in case of sides.

 

[Mrs P]

Hi!

I posted about this in the main bit of the forum but not had any replies from females so thought i'd ask here.

My last cycle was an ana Anavar (var) -only 20mg daily cycle. I absolutely LOVED the effects. great gains, amazing definition and no sides.

I am having some time off but planning for my next cycle now, and i've been advised that i will need to up my dosage of Anavar (var) because the effects won't be the same next time. as i'm already on the maximum recommended dosage for females, can anyone give experiences of using Anavar (var) over 20mg daily? what were the sides like?

My PT is recommending a test/decca/primo stack for my next cycle but as i am not willing to compromise on any virilization my research has lead me to believe that the above is not a route that is open to me.

Someone on here suggested using the Anavar (var) with HGH as there is no virilization at all and the results are good. So does anyone have any advice on this? Anyone done it? I've heard HGH has to be run for like 6 months before there's an effect - what are the sides? at what point do I bring the Anavar (var) in? and is hgh only available in injectable form? so many questions!!

If anyone can help at all, that would be great!

My stats:

female - 32
72kg (don't know what that is in lbs!)
heavy weights workout 4 days a week/cardio 2 days plus cross training (roller derby)
99% clean diet, no alcohol, no smoking

mon - chest and tri
tues - back and bi
wed - cardio & abs
thurs - legs
fri - lat/traps
sat - rest
sun - cardio & abs

What are your goals Stargirl ?
Definitely don't listen to your PT, he's a Man & his advise can certanly turn u into one too..
Primo is pretty safe for women as well as Anavar (var) , u do have to commit to using HGH long term to fully benefit from it, I know u have runned a Anavar (var) cycle before, but I don't believe u need to run anything to acieve good results..

I wouldn't go over 20mg of Anavar (var) , there are differences in sensitivity to androgens for women, some respond slower to different compounds..
if u did well on 20 mg before u don't need to "increase" your dose for your second cycle.. imagine if u run 10 Anavar (var) cycles & keep increasing the dose each time..
Is always best to play it safe..

 

[stargirl]

What are your goals Stargirl ?
Definitely don't listen to your PT, he's a Man & his advise can certanly turn u into one too..
Primo is pretty safe for women as well as Anavar (var) , u do have to commit to using HGH long term to fully benefit from it, I know u have runned a Anavar (var) cycle before, but I don't believe u need to run anything to acieve good results..

I wouldn't go over 20mg of Anavar (var) , there are differences in sensitivity to androgens for women, some respond slower to different compounds..
if u did well on 20 mg before u don't need to "increase" your dose for your second cycle.. imagine if u run 10 Anavar (var) cycles & keep increasing the dose each time..
Is always best to play it safe..

Hi Mrs P,

Thanks for the reply and advice. Given what you've said, i wouldn't be keen to go over the 20mg daily of Anavar (var) now - especially looking at the bigger, longer term picture. I was just given advice that the 20mg wouldn't have the same effect next time but as i've only done one cycle that probably isn't the case.

In terms of my goals, well ultimately i would like to compete but mainly i just want to become a better, stronger version of myself. I really enjoy every aspect of bodybuilding - the art of it, the sculpting, the attention to detail. the regimented diet and hitting it hard at the gym is something i really enjoy, and i've seen some pretty fast benefits over the last few years even before doing the Anavar (var) cycle.

I was considering the HGH mainly because prior to hitting the weights hard and having it become a 'lifestyle', i lost about 50lbs in a year. This hasn't left me with loose skin because i lost the weight through exercise and sensible diet, and not through crash dieting. however i have got stretch marks and i have read some information that HGH helps bring back elasticity to skin and may help with this. I know hgh is a long-term thing, would it be 6 months or is it recommended to be more than that? are there any disadvantages to hgh apart from the fact that i have to inject it (which puts me off a bit to be honest)

 

[Mrs P]

Hi Mrs P,

Thanks for the reply and advice. Given what you've said, i wouldn't be keen to go over the 20mg daily of Anavar (var) now - especially looking at the bigger, longer term picture. I was just given advice that the 20mg wouldn't have the same effect next time but as i've only done one cycle that probably isn't the case.

In terms of my goals, well ultimately i would like to compete but mainly i just want to become a better, stronger version of myself. I really enjoy every aspect of bodybuilding - the art of it, the sculpting, the attention to detail. the regimented diet and hitting it hard at the gym is something i really enjoy, and i've seen some pretty fast benefits over the last few years even before doing the Anavar (var) cycle.

I was considering the HGH mainly because prior to hitting the weights hard and having it become a 'lifestyle', i lost about 50lbs in a year. This hasn't left me with loose skin because i lost the weight through exercise and sensible diet, and not through crash dieting. however i have got stretch marks and i have read some information that HGH helps bring back elasticity to skin and may help with this. I know hgh is a long-term thing, would it be 6 months or is it recommended to be more than that? are there any disadvantages to hgh apart from the fact that i have to inject it (which puts me off a bit to be honest)

Wow ! Congrats on your weight loss

It's great that you are passionate about this sport, it takes a lot of hard work & dedication & dicipline, but it's definitely a way of life & one of the best things u can do for youself..feeling great & seeing your hard work pay off improves every aspect of your life...

Now about HGH Injecting it is not painful at all.. u use an insulin pin, might be a little scary the first time, but once u do it once you'll see is not painful.
The benefits you'll experience right away are, better sleep (vivid dreams), better skin & hair.. now as a fat loss "aid" you do need to be on it for a while before u notice it..And of course like with everything else diet & training have to be spot on..
For rejuvenation purposes u pretty much have to commit to loooong term.....HGH is expensive so most people do a 5 day on 2 days off.. (you don't have to do this, but if money is an issue u can)

As far as the stretch marks, eventhou HGH does improve skin texture & elasticity it won't do much for the stretch marks.
If u have a history of cancer then stay away from it, as it can accelarate it.

 

[stargirl]

Thanks again Mrs P, your knowledge is really helpful!

That's a shame about the stretch marks ... hopefully they will fade with time then. I'm not looking for quick fixes in life in general, i'm quite patient - it wasn't the main thing that drew me to HGH anyway but it's good to know ahead of time that it's not likely to assist with this and then my expectations won't be let down

 

[Mrs P]

Thanks again Mrs P, your knowledge is really helpful!

That's a shame about the stretch marks ... hopefully they will fade with time then. I'm not looking for quick fixes in life in general, i'm quite patient - it wasn't the main thing that drew me to HGH anyway but it's good to know ahead of time that it's not likely to assist with this and then my expectations won't be let down

No problem Stargirl
You know after 3 pregnancies and being very thin before the pregnancies I did get a few stretch marks in my upper abdomen, I can tell u thou with time they do fade & make sure you are moisturizing, it really helps minimize them...
Don't know how long it's been for u, but depending on yoru skin tone, they tend to be purple at first and with time they change to almost yoru skin tone, so they get barely visible.

 

[juced_porkchop]

I would rec Anavar (var) over Winstrol (winny) and i would keep Anavar (var) under 30mg (10-20mg ed is good for most)

 

[stargirl]

No problem Stargirl
Don't know how long it's been for u, but depending on yoru skin tone, they tend to be purple at first and with time they change to almost yoru skin tone, so they get barely visible.

they're not purple, they're like shiny white lines - but still very obvious as they range from about one inch to three inches long :/ hideous! i have a couple of tiny 1cm ones on the inside of my thigh which are a bit more purpley in colour. i'll try the moisturising then, i haven't really been doing anything with them at the moment tbh. i tried cocoa butter before but i wasn't sure if it was really helping, i guess i could start that again and stick with it. anything that would help would be good

thanks again!

 

[Mrs P]

they're not purple, they're like shiny white lines - but still very obvious as they range from about one inch to three inches long :/ hideous! i have a couple of tiny 1cm ones on the inside of my thigh which are a bit more purpley in colour. i'll try the moisturising then, i haven't really been doing anything with them at the moment tbh. i tried cocoa butter before but i wasn't sure if it was really helping, i guess i could start that again and stick with it. anything that would help would be good

thanks again!

I guess it depends on your complexion, I live in a tropical place, & naturally have a dark complexion.. but, tanning does help too.