can you please help w/my 1st cycle

elij

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hi everyone! i have been reading your forum for over a month now. great site by the way alot of info. i hope you guys can help me. i have been working out for about 3 years now i am 37 5"6 165 lbs. i am not really looking to add alot of size. i really just want to rip up and look hard. here is the cycle i plan on doing. i know my doses should be higher from what i have read here but will this work.

Week 1-test e350/week-deca200/week
Week 2- 350/week-200/week
Week 3- 350week-200/week
Week 4-350/week-200/week
Week 5-350/week-200/week
Week 6-350/week-200/week
Week 7----winny50 ED-350/week-200/week
Week 8----50 ED-350/week-200/week
Week 9----50 ED-350/week-200/week
Week 10---50 ED-350/week-200/week
week 11----50 ed-350/week
week 12----50 ed-350/week
week 13----50 ed
week 14-16 Clomid 50mg/day
week 1-12 5mg arimidex ed
also would i beable to draw up the test and the deca in the same needle? thanks guys for any advice
 
bump your test levels to at least 500 EW and your deca to 400... running it a those doses you will see next to nothing...500mg a week of test is still a normal dose..and adex can be ran anywhere from week 1 - 12 to when ever your bloat kicks in..and if you get no estro sides/bloat you might not need adex but good thing you have it...run your pct for 4 weeks..running deca takes a big toll on your body...and if your running Winstrol (winny) make sure your in the single digits for your body fat...because if not it pretty much is pointless to use...and yes you can put your deca/test in the same needle...the only concern some people have is mixing a water based substance with an oil base...
 
hey thanks for your reply.
i knew my doses were too low. my fear is that if i do 500mg a week i would get big and i really don't want to get to big. but i will change it. i think i am going to take out the Winstrol (winny). i am not sure of my bf% but it has to be the single digits. thanks again
 
I pretty new but I've heard first cycles w just 12 weeks of Sustanon (sust) 250 makes great gains so you might not need that much test.
 
But your Deca level is low 200mg/wk wont do it. You should bump it up to 400mg/wk. It should give less side affects than testosterone.
 
i am going to up them both
test 500 a week
deca 400 a week
is this going to make me blow up? i am not looking to get real big from this. i am a small guy and i have seen some smaller guy in the gym that have juiced and they look fucking stupid. i don't wanna look like that.
 
That should be a great cycle bro. I dont recament anything other than test only for a first cycle though!
 
Dude you will get F-n HUGE. It Should be great quality gains. Deca and Test is a great combo. Put is this way you will gain at least 10-15 pounds maybe more depends on your diet.
 
That should be a great cycle bro. I dont recament anything other than test only for a first cycle though!

thank you. i do understand about the test only it seems everyone does. do you think i will put on much weight with this cycle because like i said i am not looking to get that big. thanks alot
 
You should research more bc in your first post you say you don't wont that much size. I've seen it suggested many times that a first cycle user doesn't need that much testosterone. Usually people save the base 500mg/wk -750mg/wk of test in a cycle for their third and forth round. The more test the more side effects. Your body will be in for quiet a shock not to mention your brain. Test will increase aggressive thoughts and feelings whether this translates to behavior depends on personality. If your a mature thinking 37 year old you should be able to manage pretty well but at least consider it.
 
just do the test at 250 - 500mg a week. save your deca you do not stack your first cycle. My stats were close to yours when i started. i was 5'8" at 175. i did 250 mg of Sustanon (sust) a week. i gained atleast 20 pounds. get some more replies from experienced members before you start that cycle. you have no clue how your body will react to the deca or test so start off with the just the test.Do not go over 500mg a week. it would b a waste. Also why would you stack anyway if you just wanna gain a little. if you only want ten pounds or so shoot the test at 250mg a week.With a good diet you will b fine, and most likely wont have side effects
 
just do the test at 250 - 500mg a week. save your deca you do not stack your first cycle. My stats were close to yours when i started. i was 5'8" at 175. i did 250 mg of Sustanon (sust) a week. i gained atleast 20 pounds. get some more replies from experienced members before you start that cycle. you have no clue how your body will react to the deca or test so start off with the just the test.Do not go over 500mg a week. it would b a waste. Also why would you stack anyway if you just wanna gain a little. if you only want ten pounds or so shoot the test at 250mg a week.With a good diet you will b fine, and most likely wont have side effects

thanks alot guys. so you think if i do 300mg a week i will get some good gains. what do you guys think about the Winstrol (winny) 50mg and deca 200mg or should i take them out all together.
 
my second cycle would be
week 1-12 test e 500mg
week 1-10 deca 400mg
save the winni and use in the next cycle. bulk in the winter. cut going into summer
 
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