Cardio immediatly after weight training?

[jginsane29]

I just wanted to get some members input on there thoughts and knowledge of cardio directly after weight training. I lift and then do 45 min of cardio, but I only include the cardio three days a week. Does this have more of a catabolic effect on muscle than if I were to do it at a seperate time of the day? Would be dissappointing to find out that I train hard in the gym to build muscle only to find out that I am contradicting that with cardio immediatly after.

 

[brother bundy]

30 to 40 min of cardio after lifting I think is great for fat burning.Thats how Ive been doing it

 

[KO'd]

x2, it makes me feel great after my workouts, maybe has something with the blood flow

 

[Bullseye Forever]

its the way i used to do it,gotta start it up again lol

 

[G03ixxer6]

I do mine, 30 min before workout 5 days a week. If I wait until after my workout I dont think id do it. Plus, it gives me a nice sweaty start.

Bullseye - Summer is cmon! Lezz go!

 

[brownchoclit]

30-40mins pwo is too long imo...i would keep it down to 20-25 max. if you are going to do it longer..then at least sip some bcca's.

 

[tjkita]

20-25

I like doing 20 minutes cardio before I hit the weights. It loosens up my muscles and I get a sweat going. If on cycle sometimes 15 minutes is all that it takes to break a sweat. After my workout I stretch and do some abs and get my heart rate back down. Then again when I go to the gym I turn up the tunes and go balls to the wall. No time to talk or BS with people. (except girls)

 

[alphamale_devon]

Hell Yeah!!! 30-45 mins of cardio after workout, before hand I have a protein shake.
Get that shit in.

 

[Diced]

It has been proven that if ur a natty bb, U should not do cardio and weights together thier should be a minimum of 6 hours beetween . doing them together will send u into a catabolic state .

 

[alphamale_devon]

It has been proven that if ur a natty bb, U should not do cardio and weights together thier should be a minimum of 6 hours beetween . doing them together will send u into a catabolic state .

That's bull, Not according to genetics. I never had this problem.

 

[Bullseye Forever]

I do mine, 30 min before workout 5 days a week. If I wait until after my workout I dont think id do it. Plus, it gives me a nice sweaty start.

Bullseye - Summer is cmon! Lezz go!

indeed man,i know!!! my cycle is over this week,gotta shed some BF of my old ass body

 

[rayjaychillin]

It has been proven that if ur a natty bb, U should not do cardio and weights together thier should be a minimum of 6 hours beetween . doing them together will send u into a catabolic state .

I agree, i don't know the science but I know what I feel like after weights. I need food and rest/recovery. If I do cardio I can feel the catabolic state . No good imo. I keep them on separate days. Plus how much effort can you really put into ur cardio if you've already given 100% to weights.

 

[joei rock]

It has been proven that if ur a natty bb, U should not do cardio and weights together thier should be a minimum of 6 hours beetween . doing them together will send u into a catabolic state .

? is what if you not natural .. i have been thinking of doing this aswell just to get in the cardio that i have been slacking on b/c of time.. atleast if i do it on work out days 25 minutes lets say its better than none at all ...
you think you would still hit a catabolic state if your on cycle?
what would be a better idea 25 min cardio b4 weight traning or after ?

 

[jginsane29]

I don't think you should go 100% on cardio anyway if you want to maintain muscle mass. I think you have to keep your heart rate at about 135 -145 to burn fat and yet not have a catabolic effect on your muscle. I am not an expert but I think I read that from someone on board I believe 3J. If not I am sure 3J knows more on the subject...... and if its proven to put you in a catabolic state if you do it right after weight training I think I am going to switch my routine

 

[joei rock]

im just having a hard time finding the time to go get my cardio done ... im trying to cut down and diet alone with almost no cardio is not going to cut it ..

 

[alphamale_devon]

I don't think you should go 100% on cardio anyway if you want to maintain muscle mass. I think you have to keep your heart rate at about 135 -145 to burn fat and yet not have a catabolic effect on your muscle. I am not an expert but I think I read that from someone on board I believe 3J. If not I am sure 3J knows more on the subject...... and if its proven to put you in a catabolic state if you do it right after weight training I think I am going to switch my routine

Hell no, Your not suppose to max out on cardio after weight training, what little carbs you have left from weight lifting will be ate up in a heart beat, then what would be the next source of energy your body is gonna pull from based on your intensity of cardio?

If you were to do hiit, sprinting or some type of intense cardio, it should be during a day off and not after weight training.

walking provides the best bang for burning straight grams of fat versus carbs but it's the slowest form to burn fat. IMO taking BCAA after working out then hitting cardio is a waste cause 2 grams of aminos isn't gonna preserve 180lbs of muscle that's non sense. It would be favorable to intake a protein shake that has like 30-40 grams of protein then tread easy on cardio for 20-30 mins if you have some concern about catabolic state. It would be best to keep your Heart Rate low during cardio to burn 95% fat vs. carb ratio.

As far as for me, I worked on the elliptical machine to level 21 of 25 to the point as if I was power walking with a ave hear rate of 118 or so. Within a 30 min session I'm clearing more then over 1100 cal deflict, I know that 95 percent of that is fats divide 900 by 9 is 100 grams of fat in that session!

IMO I believe that everyone would work up to that level of cardio so that can have that in their back pocket whenever they wanna run a cut cycle or knock off some water bloat.

 

[Diced]

End of story gentlemen do ur research . U will find that ur body has 2 active switches one for aerobic style training and one for resistance training . I would not recommend doing them together bar a slight hill walk or 10 minutes on the xtrainer before u train unless ur on cycle thats a whole other story. But as i stated above if ur natty resistance training is more then enough to completely deplete ur muscles of glycogen u need to restore it asap( get into the locker rooms and have a white bagel ) forget about cardio i mean if ur trying to loose weight and u dont care about retaining LBM then by all means go for it .

 

[rayjaychillin]

End of story gentlemen do ur research . U will find that ur body has 2 active switches one for aerobic style training and one for resistance training . I would not recommend doing them together bar a slight hill walk or 10 minutes on the xtrainer before u train unless ur on cycle thats a whole other story. But as i stated above if ur natty resistance training is more then enough to completely deplete ur muscles of glycogen u need to restore it asap( get into the locker rooms and have a white bagel ) forget about cardio i mean if ur trying to loose weight and u dont care about retaining LBM then by all means go for it .

YEP!

"It would be favorable to intake a protein shake that has like 30-40 grams of protein then tread easy on cardio for 20-30 mins if you have some concern about catabolic state. It would be best to keep your Heart Rate low during cardio to burn 95% fat vs. carb ratio."

this is how id do it if i HAD to do it on a weights training day (time constraints for example)

Preferably i would go for high intensity on another day. cardio at low rate for fat burning is good but i reckon that while high intensity might not burn as much during, it raises metabolism for a longer period afterwards therefore burning more fat

 

[TheMinister]

Hell no, Your not suppose to max out on cardio after weight training, what little carbs you have left from weight lifting will be ate up in a heart beat, then what would be the next source of energy your body is gonna pull from based on your intensity of cardio?

If you were to do hiit, sprinting or some type of intense cardio, it should be during a day off and not after weight training.

walking provides the best bang for burning straight grams of fat versus carbs but it's the slowest form to burn fat. IMO taking BCAA after working out then hitting cardio is a waste cause 2 grams of aminos isn't gonna preserve 180lbs of muscle that's non sense. It would be favorable to intake a protein shake that has like 30-40 grams of protein then tread easy on cardio for 20-30 mins if you have some concern about catabolic state. It would be best to keep your Heart Rate low during cardio to burn 95% fat vs. carb ratio.

As far as for me, I worked on the elliptical machine to level 21 of 25 to the point as if I was power walking with a ave hear rate of 118 or so. Within a 30 min session I'm clearing more then over 1100 cal deflict, I know that 95 percent of that is fats divide 900 by 9 is 100 grams of fat in that session!

IMO I believe that everyone would work up to that level of cardio so that can have that in their back pocket whenever they wanna run a cut cycle or knock off some water bloat.

I don't agree with this. Cardio after weights is perfect, weight training releases gycolon spelling, and the cardio Burns it off. Hence weights then Cardio everytime

 

[DaHurt]

It has been proven that if ur a natty bb, U should not do cardio and weights together thier should be a minimum of 6 hours beetween . doing them together will send u into a catabolic state .

I hate when people say this..."it has been proven"

Well if so provide some god damned sources.