Chocolate milk after workout

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Hey guys. I know this is not the diet forum, but ive posted 2 seporate threads in that section and never get a response, so i thought i would ask the guys that are REALLY into muscle building. Anyway, heres my question:
Ive dedicated the last 5 years of my workouts toward fat loss and/or lean muscle building. For the past year, ive heard quite a bit of hype about chocolate milk after workouts due to your body craving the whey protein and sugars within the milk. Im quite vascular as it is and i really dont want to lose it. Im also in the progress of shredding the remaining fat off of my abs. The biggest people in the gym say that i will have no worries about the fatloss.
Is this true? What are your opinions?
 
Chocolate milk after workouts

Hey guys. I know this is not the diet forum, but ive posted 2 seporate threads in that section and never get a response, so i thought i would ask the guys that are REALLY into muscle building. Anyway, heres my question:
Ive dedicated the last 5 years of my workouts toward fat loss and/or lean muscle building. For the past year, ive heard quite a bit of hype about chocolate milk after workouts due to your body craving the whey protein and sugars within the milk. Im quite vascular as it is and i really dont want to lose it. Im also in the progress of shredding the remaining fat off of my abs. The biggest people in the gym say that i will have no worries about the fatloss.
Is this true? What are your opinions?
 
I avoid milk at all times. I don't see carbs from lactose as beneficial. Same goes for dextrose, fructose and maltodextrin.
 
I drink milk by the gallon ( not really) but milk is great man, especially post work out-- quick carbs and quality protein.
 
Cool. Thanks alot guys. This is why i like to ask this forum. Quick answers. Haha. Seems like not many others care to help out. And google, i cant even tell u how many different answers i get there.
 
Chocolate won't hurt your fat loss provided you keep you calories and macros the same if you add it in. Chocolate milk isn't superior to any other source of post workout protein. The article that I believe you're referring to is called "An Onjective Comparison of Chocolate Milk Vs Surge Recovery". The conclusion was:

Alan Aragon said:
I have no vested interest in glorifying chocolate milk, nor do I stand to benefit by vilifying Surge. My goal was to objectively examine the facts. Using research as the judge, chocolate milk was superior or equal to Surge in all categories. The single exception was a win for Surge in the convenience department. So, if the consumer were forced to choose between the two products, the decision would boil down to quality at the expense of convenience, or vice versa. I personally would go for the higher quality, lower price, and strength of the scientific evidence. Chocolate milk it is.
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Chocolate milk is just one source of protein. Pick what's most convenient, available, and fits into your energy needs. There is no "anabolic window" either post-workout so it could be further argued that if you've met your dietary needs for the day and ate before training, you don't need that insulin spike and protein PWO.
 
DreDay187 said:
Chocolate won't hurt your fat loss provided you keep you calories and macros the same if you add it in. Chocolate milk isn't superior to any other source of post workout protein. The article that I believe you're referring to is called "An Onjective Comparison of Chocolate Milk Vs Surge Recovery". The conclusion was:


Chocolate milk is just one source of protein. Pick what's most convenient, available, and fits into your energy needs. There is no "anabolic window" either post-workout so it could be further argued that if you've met your dietary needs for the day and ate before training, you don't need that insulin spike and protein PWO.
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Working out does increase your metabolism for hours afterwards..I know that and can absolutely feel it, ever single day I train. I agree with the "anabolic window" begin false, but at the same time it seems the the most optimal time to eat would be when your metabolism is roaring at full blast. Especially after long training sessions where you deplete you glycogen stores..I couldn't imagine not eating PWO, for ME atleast that insulin spike is crucial or I feel like shit an have no energy for remainder of the day.
 
KingPen said:
Working out does increase your metabolism for hours afterwards..I know that and can absolutely feel it, ever single day I train. I agree with the "anabolic window" begin false, but at the same time it seems the the most optimal time to eat would be when your metabolism is roaring at full blast. Especially after long training sessions where you deplete you glycogen stores..I couldn't imagine not eating PWO, for ME atleast that insulin spike is crucial or I feel like shit an have no energy for remainder of the day.
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Where did I say metabolism wasn't affected by working out? It really depends on the type of workout you do anyway.

Body building style lifting does not deplete glycogen stores unless you're working out more than once a day or training in a fully fasted state. How many people here fit into that demographic? Not many. If you forget that you'd still have to show how replenishing glycogen stores "within the ~30min anabolic window" is superior to replenishing them with your next meal...whenever it may be. So not only do you not deplete your glycogen stores but you don't have to rush at the speed of light PWO to do so either.

There is no logical reason for eating when your metabolism is roaring as the optimal time. That's purely conjecture my friend and has no sound basis in science. Your body is extremely efficient at extracting the nutrients out of food no matter what time it is. Spiking your insulin helps you how exactly? Is a spike really necessary or would a smaller but more frequent release of insulin work too in the case of not "spiking" insulin?

Now this also assumes you didn't eat before training, who here eats before their training? That food is still being digested 4-6hrs after you ate it so you still have nutrients in you after you leave the gym further negating the need for PWO nutrition. No where do you see me saying DON'T do it, as a matter of fact I do eat after the gym but bc I'm extremely hungry afterwards not bc it fills the anabolic window. Nutrient timing is a function of personal preference and convenience, not one of body composition.
 
detroitdrugzzz93 said:
what do you recommend instead of milk to mix your protein shakes with. I have tried water but it makes me very nautious tbh.
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Austin doesn't do shakes lol.

Edit* if you enjoy milk than use it for your shakes, it shouldn't be the sole source of protein in your diet so its not that big of a deal. Make sure you don't go over your caloric intake needs if you add extra milk, compensate for it by dropping calories elsewhere
 
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DreDay187 said:
Austin doesn't do shakes lol.

Edit* if you enjoy milk than use it for your shakes, it shouldn't be the sole source of protein in your diet so its not that big of a deal. Make sure you don't go over your caloric intake needs if you add extra milk, compensate for it by dropping calories elsewhere
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Good memory :)
 
It is optimal to have some carbs after your workout to break the fast, however it is not entirely necessary. Personally I wouldn't recommend chocolate milk alone, however you could mix it with your protein. As far as fat loss goes as long as it fits in your macros then there is no issue, however since you would be adding carbs post workout you will need to cut the same amount of carbs out somewhere else during the day.

Here are two relevant videos from the Nutritional PHD and pro natural bodybuilder Layne Norton

BioLayne Video Log 12 - Clean Eating vs IIFYM (If it fits your macros) - YouTube
BioLayne Video Log 18 - Carbohydrate Metabolism: What Intake is Right for You? - YouTube

Best of luck,
Parker.
 
Nosy Parker said:
It is optimal to have some carbs after your workout to break the fast, however it is not entirely necessary. Personally I wouldn't recommend chocolate milk alone, however you could mix it with your protein. As far as fat loss goes as long as it fits in your macros then there is no issue, however since you would be adding carbs post workout you will need to cut the same amount of carbs out somewhere else during the day.

Here are two relevant videos from the Nutritional PHD and pro natural bodybuilder Layne Norton

BioLayne Video Log 12 - Clean Eating vs IIFYM (If it fits your macros) - YouTube
BioLayne Video Log 18 - Carbohydrate Metabolism: What Intake is Right for You? - YouTube

Best of luck,
Parker.
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You beat me to it Nosy! Somebody's got it right :)
 
KingPen said:
Working out does increase your metabolism for hours afterwards..I know that and can absolutely feel it, ever single day I train. I agree with the "anabolic window" begin false, but at the same time it seems the the most optimal time to eat would be when your metabolism is roaring at full blast. Especially after long training sessions where you deplete you glycogen stores..I couldn't imagine not eating PWO, for ME atleast that insulin spike is crucial or I feel like shit an have no energy for remainder of the day.
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KingPen, I forgot to add in the other post that skeletal muscle is also more receptive to dietary protein intake after a workout, BUT it is more receptive for 24hours after a workout so you have a full day to get the benefits of PWO nutrition making it more like a garage door than a window in my opinion lol.
 
Ive always hated it when some one claims chocolate milk is the best thing you can have after a workout. Lol im not saying that's what your claiming OP. I personally think the best combination of things you can have while working out and after would be a branched chained amino acid drink that has B vitamins and citrulline in it. And after words have Hydrolyzed whey protein or Whey protein isolate with waxy maze or even eating white rice after words. Lately I have been having hydrolyzed whey followed by 100% fruit juice. I change my carb sources a lot just to kind of experiment with what works the best.
 
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