Clomid Verses Nolvadex!!!

ludakris9

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Hey guys one more simple question: I will be running

weeks 1-10 500 mg test E- 2 injections per week @ 250mg.
weeks 11-12 maintain clean diet and lifting with 20mg of Nova per day
weeks 13-14 20mg of nova per day
weeks 15-18 10mg of nova per day ( I then will keep running the nova at 10mg a day until I feel normal again.

My question is that I have heard and read up that Nolvadex and clomid are both good PCTs to use. I just wanted to know if Nolvadex is the one I should use or if clomid would be better on my first cycle? :insane2:
 
I like novaldex personally less sides for me. The only thing that I like about clomid is the huge loads that I blow when screwing my chick. Personally I think novaldex is a better choice as many get vision problems, sleeping problems, and emotional when on clomid.

Champ
 
Champ said:
Personally I think novaldex is a better choice as many get vision problems, when on clomid.


I have always wondered about that. Are the vision problems permanent?
 
ludakris9 said:
Hey guys one more simple question: I will be running

weeks 1-10 500 mg test E- 2 injections per week @ 250mg.
weeks 11-12 maintain clean diet and lifting with 20mg of Nova per day
weeks 13-14 20mg of nova per day
weeks 15-18 10mg of nova per day ( I then will keep running the nova at 10mg a day until I feel normal again.

My question is that I have heard and read up that Nolvadex and clomid are both good post cycle therapy (pct)s to use. I just wanted to know if Nolvadex is the one I should use or if clomid would be better on my first cycle? :insane2:

Bro, your post cycle therapy (pct) is wrong. Wait two weeks after you last injection of Test then begin nolva as follows:

40-50mg everyday for 2 wks
20mg per day for the last wk
 
Hormonal effects of an antiestrogen, tamoxifen, in normal and oligospermic men.

Vermeulen A, Comhaire F.

The administration of tamoxifen, 20 mg/day for 10 days, to normal males produced a moderate increase in luteinizing hormone (LH), follicle-stimulating hormone (FSH), testosterone, and estradiol levels, comparable to the effect of 150 mg of clomiphene citrate (Clomid). However, whereas Clomid produced a decrease in the LH response to LH-releasing hormone (LHRH), no such effect was seen after the administration of tamoxifen. In fact, prolonged treatment (6 weeks) with tamoxifen significantly increased the LH response to LHRL. Treatment of patients with "idiopathic" oligospermia for 6 to 9 months resulted in a significant increase in gonadotropin, testosterone, and estradiol levels. A significant increase in sperm density was observed only in subjects with oligospermia below 20 X 10(6)/ml and normal basal FSH levels. When basal FSH levels were increased or oligospermia was moderate (greater than 20 X 10(6)/ml); no effect on sperm density was seen. As sperm density increased, FSH levels decreased, suggesting an inhibin effect. Sperm motility was not improved by tamoxifen treatment. In five boys with delayed puberty, tamoxifen treatment appeared to activate the pituitary-gonadal axis and pubertal development.

JohnnyB
 
just from what i have read, clomid works. my cycle that i will be starting is close to yours and i have been told to go with clomid. even though nova works as well.
 
JohnnyB said:
I don't see the reason for running them together if nolva works better then clomid

JohnnyB

Thanks for the advice bro! I shouldjust stick with the Nova then? Not start running it until off for two weeks?
 
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