Creatine on cycle? The truth please

Schredder said:
Do you have Mono or HCL bro?? Either way creatine works, I just find with HCL its more quality gain with less water retention, I get on er though for sure, and some guys respond extremely well to creatine, I know people who have put on 10lbs from creatine alone.
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I have both dude. I got so much shit at olympia it was retarded.
 
halfwit said:
I just hate the extra couple pounds of water messing with my ego.
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Oh ain't THAT the truth!
I've SORTA fixed that problem by buying Con-Cret Creatine.
Fucken expensive as shit---but the bloat---for me--- is mostly gone.

FYI---Costco has it--and its a lot cheaper--hurry up thou--I spoke to my friend that works there and he said -when it's gone--IT'S G O N E.
 
DD55 said:
Creatine causes hbp issues in some. It raised my bp substantially when I was off cycle. This totally blows for me... :(
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Try upping your water intake and lowering the creatine dose to combat the hypertension.


You shouldn't take creatine nonstop for the rest of your life. Give your body a month off for every 2-3 months on minimum.
 
Schredder said:
Sick!! Ya get on er bro, I tend to cycle on and off, as it will lose its effect after some time, once this happens just take a brief amount of time off and get back goin again man!
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Dope broski I appreciate all the input and will start tomorrow
 
jack3d4life said:
Dope broski I appreciate all the input and will start tomorrow
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No problem, just make sure if your gonna run the Monohydrate you run a loading dose for a week to start then drop it down to 5g post workout. With the HCL there is no need for a loading phase you all you need is 5g post. Some people run 5 pre and 5 post, or even 5 pre, but there have been studies done and the most effective time is going to be post workout. Ive tried every way and post seems to be the best, and more isn't better, all your gonna need is 5g at a time brother.
 
It absolutely does, the insulin spike you going to give yourself Post workout with your carbs is going to shuttle the creatine into your muscle better and faster, allowing for better recovery, and better utilization of the creatine. Non workout day take it in the AM upon wakening.
 
Creatine is just an amino acid. It does what it's supposed to do, and if your body is unable to utilize it in current form for whatever reason, it will just break it down and form another amino acid. I would just stick with monohydrate though. It's the only proven form, and the others often ramp up the price with hype and bro science claims. I have a tub in my kitchen that says it will add 15 lbs of muscle in just 3 weeks lol
 
Schredder said:
No problem, just make sure if your gonna run the Monohydrate you run a loading dose for a week to start then drop it down to 5g post workout. With the HCL there is no need for a loading phase you all you need is 5g post. Some people run 5 pre and 5 post, or even 5 pre, but there have been studies done and the most effective time is going to be post workout. Ive tried every way and post seems to be the best, and more isn't better, all your gonna need is 5g at a time brother.
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I'm gonna stick with the monohydrate I guess. I have a 2 pound tub of it and it's never made me bloat or anything. My girl was taking it too and she liked it. I'll do the loading phase for the first week and then 5g a day following. Will report any pros or cons soon
 
As you keep exercising your stores of ATP become depleted and can affect your performance. Your body can replace this ATP back by using your glycogen stores, fatty acids and amino acids but these processes take time. The PCr system is preferred for high intensity movements like high-intensity weight training, high intensity cardio and sprinting. Creatine supplementation helps by increasing the concentration of creatine in muscle (the muscle creatine pool). As creatine exists in the form of creatine phosphate in the body, this pool is called the "Creatine Phosphate pool". The aim of taking supplemental creatine is to saturate this pool. Therefore creatine is more of an "accumulative" supplement. Meaning you are trying to keep your creatine phosphate pool full by constantly taking it on a daily basis. In contrast as an example, caffeine is not an accumulative supplement, it is a "quick effect" supplement. Meaning you take it now and you may feel the effect in the gym 30 minutes later.Creatine does not work this way. You cannot take creatine now and expect it to make a difference in 30 minutes' time. With this in mind, IT DOES NOT MATTER WHEN YOU TAKE CREATINE.
 
clman8585 said:
As you keep exercising your stores of ATP become depleted and can affect your performance. Your body can replace this ATP back by using your glycogen stores, fatty acids and amino acids but these processes take time. The PCr system is preferred for high intensity movements like high-intensity weight training, high intensity cardio and sprinting. Creatine supplementation helps by increasing the concentration of creatine in muscle (the muscle creatine pool). As creatine exists in the form of creatine phosphate in the body, this pool is called the "Creatine Phosphate pool". The aim of taking supplemental creatine is to saturate this pool. Therefore creatine is more of an "accumulative" supplement. Meaning you are trying to keep your creatine phosphate pool full by constantly taking it on a daily basis. In contrast as an example, caffeine is not an accumulative supplement, it is a "quick effect" supplement. Meaning you take it now and you may feel the effect in the gym 30 minutes later.Creatine does not work this way. You cannot take creatine now and expect it to make a difference in 30 minutes' time. With this in mind, IT DOES NOT MATTER WHEN YOU TAKE CREATINE.
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Yeah. Here's the thing tho. Some of us go back to the days when creatine was first produced, before micronizing made the product more tolerable. The large molecules, taken at random times throughout the day, tended to resist dissolving into solution, and would sit on the inner intestinal wall and cause excruciating intestinal cramps and diarrhea. Taking it right after a workout with sugar ensured that more of it would be transported to the muscle, lowering GI side effects.

Yes, micronized molecules and easy-to-absorb esters make taking creatine a breeze nowadays, but if you have a visceral history with the original versions, you realize how much more product gets delivered to the muscles if you time the administration correctly.
 
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I wanted to use creatine, but I dont want to put all that stress on my liver and kidneys. Feel's better to know i accomplished my goals naturally as well.
 
It gets absorbed either way at anytime. Insulin and post-workout optimizes absorption though(according to studies). All preference
 
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