cutting cycle and first time

[me1702]

Dear member,

after weeks or longer off thoughts should I or shouldn't and plenty off readings I decided to start my first try and like to share with you my first cycle.
Firstly, one reason I try, my testosterone level is very very low, yet my last blood work and health check is everything pretty perfect and I dropped around 40kg in fat in the last 1,5 years.

My goal: cutting the last 4% body fat and gain some quality muscles

Stats:
46 years
90 kg
14% body fat
4 years gym experience

Cal goal: 3000 cal/day

Prot 50%
fat 30%
carbs 20%
carbs primaraly after leg and back workout!

program:
Hypertrophy style, Charles Poliquin fan with 2-3 times a week back, chest or legs. During T phase (4 weeks legs, then back off legs while 4 weeks twice back and so on). I try overreaching for my weak body parts.


Cutting start:
week 1-12 300mg twice a week Enan 300mg (Monday and Friday)
week 1-8 Oxy 100, 200mg split monday to thursday
week 1-12 50mg proviron per day


PCT:
Day 1 - Clomid 200mg + Nolvadex 40mg
Following 10 days - Clomid 50mg + Nolvadex 20mg
Following 10 days - Clomid 50mg or Nolvadex 20mg
Trying to get HCG, but in Singapore no easy to get. I will be in March in the US for two weeks or try to get it in Bangkok.

The questions I have, can I start my fat burning with PCT or start with T cycle?:
week 1-2 Clen 40mg
week 3-6 Clen 80mg
week 7 Clen 40mg
week 8 Clen 20mg

What you guys think?

This is based on what I can get in Singapore and based on research.

Thanks and have a great weekend

 

[DexterMorgan]

Dear me1702, I left a comment but you still ain't replying
I left my comment, and PM info at the bottom
We recommend test only as your 1st cycle, you must not have read it.
There probably was a problem with search box or somethin
Sometimes we label our threads too sloppy when we jot 'em
but anyways; fuck it, what's your AI? Where's hCG?
My first cycle has been test only too, I made good gains
If I could do another cycle it would be Test+Var

Your PCT Could Look Like This:
Clomid 75/50/50/50
Nolva 40/20/20/20

Anyways, I hope you get this man, hit me back,
If you have any questions or just to chat, truly yours, your biggest help
This is Dex

 

[me1702]

Hi Dex,

thanks for your replay.

Haven't got any message in my inbox and I was on my way to the gym...leg day.

I can't get HCG here anywhere unfortunately, yet I am in Miami for two weeks in March and hopefully get something .

You think Oxy and Test is to heavy for first cycle?

My planned AI is proviron, I use during my test cycle.

Just to add to my post, I guess I will go for Clen during my PCT, plenty off stuff already in my body.

Cheers

me1702

 

[DexterMorgan]

There are better alternatives, use AI, aromasin or adex for example. Its a great libido booster, but I wouldn't rely on proviron alone for estrogen control.

Yes, I would stick to test only. Look into t3 instead of clen.

If your test is low, I would see endo 1st before doing anything. How low is it? Do you think you may need trt?

 

[me1702]

good morning,

I can't get aromasin or adex but T3 I get. I am in Singapore, they have very little humour here with drugs, yet those are not drugs, still I need to be a bit careful. By the way, shouldI cycle T3 with T4?

My test results:
Additional Test /
Testosterone

2.81 ng/ml (1.75 - 7.81 ng / ml)

Many thanks again....like with training, more you know, more you grow. I tho with training, just get certified as a PT from Poloquin, nutrition and supplements. Now I want to master this

 

[me1702]

Dex, interessting, I can't sent a private message , not even to admin

 

[me1702]

after some more reading and input I come up with this

Cutting start:
week 1-2 Oxy M50 200mg split monday to thursday
week 3-14 300mg twice a week Enan 300mg (Monday and Friday)
week 3-4 Oxy M50, 200mg split monday to thursday
week 3-14 50mg proviron per day
week 1-14 arimidex 0,5mg ED
week 12-14 HCG E4D 500ui

two weeks break then PCT

PCT:
week 17 Clomid 75mg + Nolva 40mg
week 18 Clomid 50mg + Nolva 20mg
week 19 Clomid 50mg or Nolva 20mg
week 20 Clomid 50mg + Nova 20mg

fat burning with PCT:
week 1-2 Clen 40mg
week 3-6 Clen 80mg
week 7 Clen 40mg
week 8 Clen 20mg

Thoughts?

 

[DexterMorgan]

Why are you starting test on week 3? You should not run ANY of the compounds without test (unless you're a woman).
Adex dosing isn't right.
hCG use is incorrect.
Don't rely on clen too much, diet is what mostly determines your body fat.
I think that you should bulk your 1st cycle. You won't gain as much muscle on a cut.

This is how I would run my 1st cycle.

1-12: Test e: 300mg Monday, Thursday. 600mg/wk total.
1-13: hCG: 250iu x2 week. Every 3.5 days. You can do Mon&Thu as well.
1-14: aDex: 0.25mg every other day ( Increase to .50 eod if needed)
NAC liver support 600mg week 1 till the end of PCT
PCT as listed above.

 

[me1702]

Thanks Dex, yours sounds much easier

appreciate your help