Cutting PH Cycle help!

[djmoffs]

Watsup guys im new around here. My goal is to get a ripped six pack and the dream bod lol. I have done phs before. Ive done some research and found that IBE Epistane is ideal for cutting. Is this true?

My other question is would it be necessary and if so should i get Cycle Assist or that Aromatase inhibitor (AI) one?

Also for cutting what protein should i be taking besides a clean diet(which i now have)

And last but not least what is the best PCT ?

 

[Orbitz]

Any Epistane clone not just IBE Epistane is good on a cut. Protein go with whey isolate, go with Aromatase inhibitor (AI) cycle support it has more for your money imo. post cycle therapy (pct) go with Clomid 50/50/50/50 with BPS Endosurge or PES Erase.

 

[07Lane40]

LOL... what protein should i take... NONE

if you really have a good diet you don't need shakes. they're for convenience - not nutrition.

 

[BeastinTheEast]

Epi is definitely good for cutting, i'm using it currently at 30mg minimal sides for me. Helladrol(H-drol) is also a good one that is effective for gaining lean mass/lowering bodyfat. Sides are minimum if not none depending on how you dose it as well.

As far as on cycle support N2-Guard is pretty epic, you get all the benefits of liver support (guy on 40mg d-bol for 6 weeks had absolutely perfect liver values) Also covers cardiovascular health/joint health/immune system THE WHOLE DEAL.

Protein wise i'd go with basic isolate, you could try the low carb/fat ones since they generally have less calories.

 

[djmoffs]

What brand epi are you running? And dosage/length of time?

 

[Spongy]

LOL... what protein should i take... NONE

if you really have a good diet you don't need shakes. they're for convenience - not nutrition.

x2. The only time I take a protein shake these days is immediately post workout. Epistane is a great PH for cutting though. I've used it with great results.

 

[BeastinTheEast]

What brand epi are you running? And dosage/length of time?

Chaparral Labs, Either 4-5 weeks @ up to 40-60mg/Day.

More info here:

http://www.steroidology.com/forum/p...ives/618022-beasts-epi-c-log-now-n2guard.html

 

[gymrat827]

Watsup guys im new around here. My goal is to get a ripped six pack and the dream bod lol. I have done phs before. Ive done some research and found that IBE Epistane is ideal for cutting. Is this true?

My other question is would it be necessary and if so should i get Cycle Assist or that Aromatase inhibitor (AI) one?

Also for cutting what protein should i be taking besides a clean diet(which i now have)

And last but not least what is the best post cycle therapy (pct) ?

any epistane should be good for cutting. you will still add muscle too.

id start @ 40mg and go from there. a all in one cycle support like N2gaurd would also be a good idea. orals are harsh on your body.

 

[Colbert]

I hated EPI...was too weak for me. I would run helladrol for cutting...now that will get you some awesome gains

 

[djmoffs]

Thanks for the info.... So far i have everhthing in check. But im still very unsure post cycle therapy (pct). I hear clomids is good,, but femara looks interesting and here it naturally raises igf-1 which i really dont know what it does fully.
So if i can some ops on a post cycle therapy (pct) id appreciate it.

So far. Epi 40mg for 6 weeks. While taking a cycle assist and dieting properly with an isopure protein.
Now my post cycle therapy (pct) has me confused...
I still presently have some gyno happening, so idk if i should do an arimidex to kill that off and then start the epi

 

[07Lane40]

Thanks for the info.... So far i have everhthing in check. But im still very unsure post cycle therapy (pct). I hear clomids is good,, but femara looks interesting and here it naturally raises igf-1 which i really dont know what it does fully.
So if i can some ops on a post cycle therapy (pct) id appreciate it.

So far. Epi 40mg for 6 weeks. While taking a cycle assist and dieting properly with an isopure protein.
Now my post cycle therapy (pct) has me confused...
I still presently have some gyno happening, so idk if i should do an arimidex to kill that off and then start the epi

LETRO (FEMARA) WOULD BE HORRIBLE TO RUN IN post cycle therapy (pct)!

its the most potent Aromatase inhibitor (AI) out there and can kill all estro in your body.

leaving you with shitty mood, no libido, aching joints and you will most likely lose all gains because you're either not in the mood to lift or can't lift cause it hurts.

have you bothered to read any other articles about post cycle therapy (pct)?

 

[djmoffs]

Ive been researching pcts for quite some time and cant find the clear answer. Every site is different, i just want to get help from one people. Hence the reason i joined this forum. So if anyone has the closest to a RIGHT answer it would be greatly appreciated. Thank you

 

[07Lane40]

clomid solo is what i've run in the past. 50mg for 4 weeks. you'll feel emotional, but it will work.

some people run ralox or torem or nolva. some run a combination (usu. clomid and nolva - 50/50/50/50 clomid 40/40/20/20 nolva for example).


the only thing you shouldn't do is run an Aromatase Inhibitor as your pct. do you know what an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) does?

 

[djmoffs]

So tapering down clomid is unecassary? And im unsure what an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) is. Do i need to take a natural test booster towards the end of a pct?

 

[07Lane40]

So tapering down clomid is unecassary? And im unsure what an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) is. Do i need to take a natural test booster towards the end of a pct?

gymrat touched on AIs in your other thread. basically they either block or destroy estrogen in your system. they are all dose dependent - start low and work up. when you're done, work slowly back down.

tapering any SERM IMO is not necessary but many people do it - i'm assuming to help prevent rebound as gymrat talked about. Not as many people do it with clomid though. I always see 50/50/50/50 and thats what i run.

*most* natty T boosters aren't worth much IMO. people rave about HCGenerate, and DAA all the time, so i'd look into those if any - also some supposedly good stuff from PP on this front. but 99% of them, i wouldn't waste my money.