cycle combo decision?? help make sence

[snjRAWpress]

ok so im lookin to go back on cycle (second run) sumtime between sep and oct... was thinkin sumthin like
week 1-2 50 mgs dbol
week 3-6 50 mgs dbol Sustanon (sust) 250 every 3rd day EQ 150 every 3rd day
week 6-12 Sustanon (sust) ^ EQ ^ and Winstrol (winny) OR Anavar (var) ( what should i use if any and why) 50 mgs
week 12-14 Winstrol (winny) OR Anavar (var)
week 14-17 nolva clomid PCT

now the question is....would it b better to use deca instead of EQ? i ask this because ive read that EQ is pretty much just a tweaked and injectable version of dbol.. should i go Winstrol (winny) or Anavar (var) ?? if any...if EQ is my dose right? if EQ and dbol happen to not make sence together would TBOL be a better choice?? if DECA over EQ would it be sake to run it with the Winstrol (winny) or smart??


any answers or any of your 2 cents would be highly appreciated.. or strait cycle alterations too\

thanx guys

 

[snjRAWpress]

great advice.. keep it commin lol

 

[Conrad415]

Start the cycle off with test and not just an oral.

Dbol is great for gains/strength. Anavar is great for staying leaner/gain muscle but gains not like dbol.

I personally prefer Deca over EQ.

Not a fan of winny.

 

[snjRAWpress]

so no info on if running EQ with DBOL is good or not or what your experiences with this have been??

 

[waceyf]

This cycle is all over the place, you have to many compounds for your 2nd cycle. You do not have enough experience to be running all of these compounds. What did your first cycle look like??? And what are your stats?? Age,Height, Weight, bf% how many yrs lifting?

 

[snjRAWpress]

This cycle is all over the place, you have to many compounds for your 2nd cycle. You do not have enough experience to be running all of these compounds. What did your first cycle look like??? And what are your stats?? Age,Height, Weight, bf% how many yrs lifting?

my first cycle was pretty mild infact maybe too mild

weeks 1-4 test e 300mgs deca 300 mgs
weeks 4-10 test e 300 mgs deca 300 mgs Anavar (var) 50 mgs ED
weeks 10-13 test e 300
weeks 15-17 PCT nolva clomid


ill be 23 in sep 5'10 232 bf if i had to guess would be 12-13 not even sure and ive been lifting since i was 14 and religously the last 5 years...i can understand being new to the steroid world but nowhere near new to the gym world lol....i do have a raw press just under 500lbs and just for shits in giggles you tube (225x57) first vid is me


went into my first cycle after dieting down pretty hard to 208... ate like an aaaaaaniiimmaal put on alots good and bad weight and ended at about 241 been off for about 2 months and sittin strong at 231-232


i can respect that u think the cycle has too many compounds .. but is this simply cuz of my experience or just too many??? would u give someone with more experience the green light on this cycle??

 

[waceyf]

No I would not give someone a green light on this. Its confusing to even read it much less to run it. You should run test throughout the entire cycle. Scratch the first 2 weeks with just dbol. Lets start like this what are your goals with this cycle? Cut bulk strength? Then we'll build from there

 

[snjRAWpress]

No I would not give someone a green light on this. Its confusing to even read it much less to run it. You should run test throughout the entire cycle. Scratch the first 2 weeks with just dbol. Lets start like this what are your goals with this cycle? Cut bulk strength? Then we'll build from there

im goin for size and strength with this one... i may just simply go Sustanon (sust) every 3rd day for 12 or 14 weeks along with EQ and use the dbol the first 4-6 weeks.... pretty simplified and prob the smarter move lol... same doses as above,,,, ifff i went this route at the end of the dbol could i bridge to Anavar (var) or make a strait switch orrrrr just null the hole idea???

 

[waceyf]

I would not run the EQ less than 16 weeks at less than 600mgs and the dbol with that to kickstart would be a good idea, I wouldnt use the Anavar (var) yet save it for another cycle since this is only your 2nd cycle., here is what I would do

Sust 625mgs/wk wks 1-16
EQ 600mgs/wk wks 1-16
Dbol 40mgs/ed wks 1-4 or 5

I say 625 for easy math its 2.5cc at 250mg/ml
Although I feel your first cycle wasnt very sound so you could run Sustanon (sust) at 500-600mg/wk 12wks and dbol 40mgs/ed 4-5 wks and see good results that is actually more what I would recomend, if your diet is squared away and you lift right you can have great gains with that, remember more is not always better, There are plenty of vets who still run test and dbol cycles and have good results, I say save your money and use the test and dbol then add somethin else next time. let me know brotha

 

[snjRAWpress]

I would not run the EQ less than 16 weeks at less than 600mgs and the dbol with that to kickstart would be a good idea, I wouldnt use the Anavar (var) yet save it for another cycle since this is only your 2nd cycle., here is what I would do

Sust 625mgs/wk wks 1-16
EQ 600mgs/wk wks 1-16
Dbol 40mgs/ed wks 1-4 or 5

I say 625 for easy math its 2.5cc at 250mg/ml
Although I feel your first cycle wasnt very sound so you could run Sustanon (sust) at 500-600mg/wk 12wks and dbol 40mgs/ed 4-5 wks and see good results that is actually more what I would recomend, if your diet is squared away and you lift right you can have great gains with that, remember more is not always better, There are plenty of vets who still run test and dbol cycles and have good results, I say save your money and use the test and dbol then add somethin else next time. let me know brotha

sounds good bro....the Anavar (var) at the back end was simply added cuz i have a great cheap source for oral liquid.. wasnt really worried about saving it for later since im saving all trens growth anadrol and a few more things allready for later use,,, figured if i can utilize one now without messin things up later Anavar (var) may be the safest and easiest to do.....as far as diet goes as of now its the best its ever been and gunna keep it that way...and gym.... i got a preeetttttyyyy tight grip on wat to do in that place LOLOL