cycle help

bbnas

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Hey Im just posting to ask for some serious advice. A few months ago I started my first cycle of sus 250 at 250 mg (week), I done this for about 6 weeks and then had to cut it short due to some personal problems and throughout those 6 weeks I made no gains at all this was probably due to me not eating enough and the low dose. Anyway after this I became really depressed as I was expecting some serious results. This was 2 months ago and recently I have acquired 16 mls of sus 250 and 12 mls of decca 50 both 100 percent legit (cant get more) and I'm trying to workout the best way I should use them to start a proper cycle can anyone please give me advice from there experience as I do not want to rush into anything without adequate info.
 
I think I'am ready for a cycle I have been training for a few years now and have been in the same place for a while and mentally I think I need to see some new changes. The only problem is with getting the stuff in my country is extremely difficult and I have only been able to acquire 16 mls sus 250 and 12 decca 50 although I got these straight from a chemist and they are not as much as I needed to complete a 10-12 week cycle with the doses I had in mind so now I'm tryin to find the best way I should use what I have such as cycle length and weekly doses.
 
bbnas said:
I think I'am ready for a cycle I have been training for a few years now and have been in the same place for a while and mentally I think I need to see some new changes. The only problem is with getting the stuff in my country is extremely difficult and I have only been able to acquire 16 mls sus 250 and 12 decca 50 although I got these straight from a chemist and they are not as much as I needed to complete a 10-12 week cycle with the doses I had in mind so now I'm tryin to find the best way I should use what I have such as cycle length and weekly doses.
you didnt answer my question
tell me your stats. age, height, weight etc..
 
dude if u didnt gain ne weight last time, and u said prob cuz of ur diet, dont start till ur strickt enough to put on some weight natty. u have to eat, if ur not eating now then u wont grow when u start. its not magic oil that just puts weight on u just by shooting it. u have to bust ur ass in the gym, then bust ur ass eating when u get home. get that down and u can start. and i wouldnt even worry about using that deca if u only have 600mgs. if its 12ml at 50mg thats enough for 2 weeks, and u should wait to get enough test to get at least 500mg for 12 weeks. so sit on what u got, get ur diet straight, and get some more gear. then worry about starting.
 
Thanks for that advice I will try to get some more gear although its gona be very difficult any advice if I cant? and the 2 reasons why I didnt gain nythin 1st time around is prob to do with the low dose 250 mg of Sustanon (sust) a week, i didn finish the cycle and ofcourse the eating although I have learnt from my mistakes and will get my eating right this time around although what if i cant get more gear is it worth it with 16 mls of sus and th 12mls of decca.
 
bbnas said:
Thanks for that advice I will try to get some more gear although its gona be very difficult any advice if I cant? and the 2 reasons why I didnt gain nythin 1st time around is prob to do with the low dose 250 mg of Sustanon (sust) a week, i didn finish the cycle and ofcourse the eating although I have learnt from my mistakes and will get my eating right this time around although what if i cant get more gear is it worth it with 16 mls of sus and th 12mls of decca.

Doesn't matter that you were running a LOW dose you should have had some good gains within that time. The problem is your diet.
 
Monstar said:
Doesn't matter that you were running a LOW dose you should have had some good gains within that time. The problem is your diet.


Yeh makes sense although I thought eventhough I should of made atleast some gains because I was eating more than usual. Anyway I've just found out that I might be able to grab enough Sustanon (sust) after all I will find out tomorrow and see where to go from there if i can or cant grab.
 
ran_azrad said:
you didnt answer my question
tell me your stats. age, height, weight etc..


I'am 20 y/o 174 cm and about 88 kilos not sure bout bodyfat shouldnt be high though.
 
just run that Sustanon (sust) at 500mg at least 10 weeks, perferable 12. u dont have ne where near enough deca to start ne thing though. just dont even run that at all. it will just shut u down hard only have 600mg of it. it will do absolutly nothing. dont toss it, but hold on to it and see if u can get more maybe for a diffrent cycle. do u have ne post cycle therapy (pct) set up? that is a must befor u start. unless u want to do more harm than good. and make sure to shoot that Sustanon (sust) at least 2 times a week, 3 if u can. that way u can get benifets out of those shorter esters in there. i meen worse comes to worse and u cant get ne more sust, run it at 1.5 ml a week for 10 weeks. 11 if u have enough but there will b a lil left in every injection so u will lose a bit. so do like .75ml every monday and thurs. but have ur post cycle therapy (pct) set up or dont start at all
 
oh and i just saw that ur 20. if u have one cycle under ur belt allready when did u start?? when u were 18??? to young bro, u robbed urself of probobly another growth spurt when ur older. i grew an inch and a half from 19 y/o to 21y/o. doesnt sound like alot but i thought i was done growing. welp to late now huh
 
ironfreak703 said:
oh and i just saw that ur 20. if u have one cycle under ur belt allready when did u start?? when u were 18??? to young bro, u robbed urself of probobly another growth spurt when ur older. i grew an inch and a half from 19 y/o to 21y/o. doesnt sound like alot but i thought i was done growing. welp to late now huh

For post cycle therapy (pct) I will be getting some nolvadex and am thinking of incorporating a little bit of arimidex to it and do you really believe that 250 mg of Sustanon (sust) for 6 weeks (first cycle) is all it takes to close the growth plates?
 
yes sir. hate to tell u but i belive it is. the first time ur body is introduced to outside hormones i think ur done for. ur balls shut down allmost the same day, and i think after a few weeks it closes ur plates for good. not 100% though but im about 80%. pm me with ur diet and stuff and i will try and tweek it a bit for u to get u started. seems like we are the only ones talking on this issue ne ways
 
damn it that doctor never told me that anyway but thanks for that and I am still about a month away of starting this cycle hopefully I'll pm you as soon as I have finalised everything and see what help you can give me.
 
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ironfreak703 said:
yes sir. hate to tell u but i belive it is. the first time ur body is introduced to outside hormones i think ur done for. ur balls shut down allmost the same day, and i think after a few weeks it closes ur plates for good. not 100% though but im about 80%. pm me with ur diet and stuff and i will try and tweek it a bit for u to get u started. seems like we are the only ones talking on this issue ne ways


Hey does anyone have any further information on steroids stunting the growth because I'vebeen getting mixed opinions with others saying one cycle will not close your growth plates and I can't seem to find much info about the matter and I'am just interested in seeing if anyone has a different opinion not that I'm saying ironfreak is wrong but I would just like to increase my knowledge about the matter and possibly to others.
 
well bro if u have done one and ur planning on another, if their not shut now, they will b when ur done with this next one. they closed ur first cycle im preaty sure. but if not they will b. u should have read up on this befor u started ur last cycle when u were 19 or whatever. u have to b responsable on steroids and do ur research, and u didnt. gain weight natty, when u can do that, start ur next cycle. do u know how to eat right? do u nkow that u have to pack ur meals when ur not home so u can eat every 3 hours if not more? do u have ne multi vitamins, or omega fatty acids, or a freezer full of chicken. bodybuilding is hard work, u dont just shoot and get big. if u get ur shit straight then u can start. 20 is to young
 
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